Name Change ??

[Jayda]

Then again, according to my knowledge, the hispanic population has a large number of people (formerly) classified as hidalgos, who while certainly not aristocrats (petty nobility, like the masses we had in Poland, up to 25% of all the people in some provinces), would probably qualify for the “y”. Can it be that it’s those people who keep using it, or is it that people of a similar economic/social status to those (former) hidalgos started emulating them?

Didn’t know about “de” preceding the maiden name of a woman. Hehe, I always thought it was a place derivative or some other nobiliary distinction. I know the Dutch “van” is not like the German “von”, so maybe the Spanish “de” is not like the French one.

Not like I’m a snob. I just like such trivia.

hola…

i do not know about nobility issues but i use ‘y’ and ‘de’ both just to distinguish my married name from my mothers maiden name and my own maiden name in my full name big breath

Doña Annette Sofia Maria Isabel Hamilton de Eliot-Lerdo y Fitzgerald

this is how my mother changed her name after marriage too… names are very confusing and i do not know if it is correct from a traditional standpoint…

Dominus Vobiscum

 

[chevalier]

No idea. I have a half-Spanish friend who isn’t married, so her addresses from the embassy are quite a bit shorter than that.

 

[apricot_yogurt]

I took my husband’s name as I couldn’t wait to get rid of my unusual maiden name.
My surname now is ordinary enough that I don’t have to spell it out each time-(everyone can spell yogurt-right? )
Also we had a daughter before we were married:blush: , and she had her dad’s surname.

 

[Kuryakyn]

While me and my wife did not do it, why not BOTH parties legally change their names? If both families know each other and are on good terms (the preferable situation) combine the names. If the husband is Mr. Smith and the wife Mrs. Jones, the husband becomes Mr. Smith-Jones, and the wife becomes Mrs. Jones-Smith.

Daughters carry their father’s names, and sons carry their mother’s names…

Or, for even more fun, the married couple “invents” their own family name, perhaps even out of the names of their respective mothers. For example, if the mother of the husband is Elizabeth, and the mother of the bride is Mary, the couple may choose their last names to be “Visitation” or “Blessed”- get it?

Gee whiz, I’m having a hard enough time already tracing my family tree… I don’t even want to think about what it would be like trying to follow this naming scheme!

In fact:

• I noticed on some baptismal certificates the child is listed as the child “George Blank” and his wife “Mary Maidenname”, even if the couple is married and using his surname.

Y’know, the only problem I’d have with this is that-- given the high number of couples living together outside of marriage-- people who don’t know this couple well could easily assume that they are just cohabitating. Not a very good advertisement for Catholics!

 

[OutinChgoburbs]

…Y’know, the only problem I’d have with this is that-- given the high number of couples living together outside of marriage-- people who don’t know this couple well could easily assume that they are just cohabitating. Not a very good advertisement for Catholics!

I don’t think it’s optional. It seems that is the way it is supposed to be listed, “child of His Surname and Her Maidenname” even if she has taken hi.

 

[SMHW]

I don’t think it’s optional. It seems that is the way it is supposed to be listed, “child of His Surname and Her Maidenname” even if she has taken hi.

It’s probably supposed to agree with the legal birth certificate of the child. At least where I live birth certificates explicitly state that the name recorded is the mother’s maiden name.

 

[maryjk]

I noticed on some baptismal certificates the child is listed as the child “George Blank” and his wife “Mary Maidenname”, even if the couple is married and using his surname.

Just checked my son’s certificate.

We, as parents, are listed as:
John James Smith and Jane Mary Jones Smith. (No, not our real names.)
So it lists my maiden name, but also my married name.

And the things that list only my maiden name, state that it is my maiden name. There isn’t any ambiguity about it. It says, “mother’s maiden name.” Then on the same forms it states, “mother’s name,” and there is my full name with my married name.

Jean_Marie:

Or, for even more fun, the married couple “invents” their own family name, perhaps even out of the names of their respective mothers. For example, if the mother of the husband is Elizabeth, and the mother of the bride is Mary, the couple may choose their last names to be “Visitation” or “Blessed”- get it?

Kuryakyn:

Gee whiz, I’m having a hard enough time already tracing my family tree… I don’t even want to think about what it would be like trying to follow this naming scheme!

You wouldn’t be able to trace it.

I guess I look at this and wonder what people will do in the future. When a man that has taken his wife’s name, or a made up one, fills out a government form, what will he list? Alias any one? And these have to be explained if you are applying for a government job. Back round checks will be a treat.

Although everyone wants to be an original, people should also think about what that might cause in the future.

My nephew already has this problem because my sister thought it would be cute to give her children two middle names. There isn’t a form printed that has enough spaces for all the letters. But she thought it was a good idea.

 

[SMHW]

You wouldn’t be able to trace it.

I guess I look at this and wonder what people will do in the future. When a man that has taken his wife’s name, or a made up one, fills out a government form, what will he list? Alias any one? And these have to be explained if you are applying for a government job. Back round checks will be a treat.

But a woman who changes her name due to marriage has the same problem when a background check is done on her. Granted, I wasn’t married when my background check for my security clearance was done. (I no longer hold one.) But even now, whenever we apply for a mortgage I’ve always asked to disclose any name variations and aliases I’ve used.

The only reason I can see why things would be harder with a man is that some people might think he’s trying to hide something. While considered normal for females, male name changes for marriage are less common.

 

[maryjk]

The only reason I can see why things would be harder with a man is that some people might think he’s trying to hide something. While considered normal for females, male name changes for marriage are less common.

Maybe in 50 years it will be normal for a man to have a “maiden” name, but today it is not. The minute he lists his name and it does not match his parents and his wife’s does not match her parents, because they wanted to come up with a name together, people are going to wonder.

Then maybe their children will get married and come up with another name because they didn’t like the name that mom and dad made up. Where does it end?

Maybe it doesn’t. Maybe in the future people will introduce themselves like this:
Hi, my name is John Smith, meet my wife, Jane Doe, and my children, Ken Johnson, Sara Park, James Joyner and Mary Rains. Yes, we are all related. Those are just the names we liked.