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i did research and found out that these letters YHWH actually mean a name. guess what it is. youd be surprised. translators have taken the name out because they thought it was sacred so they replaced it with terms lord and god. im not a jw but i did some research at a library. its amazing what you can find in the library.
 
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Actually, The Jerusalem Bible (the English Bible used for Mass in New Zealand and elsewhere) is a Catholic Bible that does NOT change the tetragammon to read “the LORD”.

“I am Yahweh, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. You shall have no gods except me.”
Exodus 20:2-3, from The Jerusalem Bible
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you say the jerusalem bible. but im talkin about the scrolls. the scrolls even show. there is even evidence to show people translated it to “lord” or “god.” we need to know the exact name of god. i mean who wants to just be called god. for example the pres. does he want to be just called mr. pres. i dont think s0o00oo0o. god needs a name but dont tell me jesus is god. hes the son of god. something that puzzles is jesus being born on december 25. i also did some research. it shows that shepherds were out there. sheperds are never out in the cold. dont tell me some other bull like " well they were just there." well ya. go look it up. itll show up.
 
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i did research and found out that these letters YHWH actually mean a name. guess what it is. youd be surprised. translators have taken the name out because they thought it was sacred so they replaced it with terms lord and god. im not a jw but i did some research at a library. its amazing what you can find in the library.
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It actually means I AM…
 
Its actually another Miracle!! The original writers of the bible meant Yahoo, you know, like the search engine. They looked into the future and saw that Yahoo was going to be a huge stock in the 90s. It was a religious stock tip!!
 
Dear Sir,

The Hebrews thought of the name of god to be so holy it was not to be repeated aloud.

Names have a way of limiting, or dilneating something. A name differentiates one thing from another. God is transcendant, and no one name we can use for God is adequate, God has no limits and cannot be differentiated. He gives us “I am who am” and as difficult as that sounds grammatically it also reflects the difficulty in grasping His transcendance.

I think uttering “Lord” in place of the Holy Name is a marvelous gesture of respect, you make it seem like something wrong.

When I call you ‘sir’ instead of “Mr. no-name/idontlikeu” that is an attempt to express my respect for you, and it doesn’t limit you as much in my way of thinking about you.

My name is Michael

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idontlikeu:
i also did some research. it shows that shepherds were out there. sheperds are never out in the cold.
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Hi idontlikeu,

I have worked with farmers and shepherds and I also live up in the mountains and I can certainly say that the shepherds have always tended to their sheep in any type of weather. In the days of Jesus the shepherds relied on the health and welfare of their sheep as this was their income, shepherds were often out at night watching over their sheep in case carnivores attacked the flock.

It was normal in the colder times to herd the sheep down from the mountains and closer to the shepherds homes.

Yours in the Spirit

Pious.
 
what is your problem about celebrating Christmas on December 25? the bible does not state the date of the birth of Christ, so the Church is free to set any date it chooses for a celebration. If you birthday falls on a Tuesday, aren’t you free to celebrate it on the weekend so more people will come to your party? This is a non-issue.

Jesus is God, second person of the blessed Trinity, there is one God, one divine nature, three Persons share this divine nature, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Jesus is God, we know this because he said so. This is the message of the gospels, particularly the gospel according to John.
 
The Name of our Father has been given to us in the Old Testament through Moses. Exodus 3:13 reveals His name as “I AM WHO I AM” and it goes on to say “YAHWEH, the God of your fathers…” God told Moses to tell his people that YHWH had sent him (Moses) to his people. This is a holy name and in time it was forbidden to pronounce His name, except by the high priest once a year. The scriptures replaced the normal vowels associated with YHWH with the vowels of the title “Lord”.

In Addition, Jesus is God. He is the second person of the Trinity. Read the scriptures and if you take them as a whole you will see that Jesus is in fact God, God the Son. Any one can make a theological doctrine from one or two verses, and in fact some have. Start in John 1:1-14 and compare it to Isaiah 37:20. Jesus never denying His own divinity, He affirmed the Trueness of the God of the OT. Read John 1:1,14; 8:58; 20:28; Col 2:9, Heb 1:8 to name a few.

On the last item, the Church never said that Jesus was born on Dec. 25, if you can provide some documentation I would love to read it. The birth of our Lord is celebrated on that day and has been for centuries. Christmas (Cristes Maesse) is the Mass of Christ. Some have placed the time of birth to be on 25 Pachon (20 May) while others reached the date of 25 Pharmuthi (19 April). Others in 243 AD place His birth around the 28 of March. In fact some didn’t have the time nor date but celebrated it around the time of the Epiphany which is around the 6 to the 10th of January. But the earliest that has an entry of calendar have it on different dates and even different days ( 6 days before January or on a Friday or Wednesday) … Even going into scripture, you find there is no evidence of a date. So when was it really, Only our Lord knows. Could it be set with Natalis Invicti at the winter solstice? The thing is the Church has established this date for the day for all Christians to celebrate our Lords birth.
 
From what I understand, and of course I may be wrong… In the OT God , Exodus 6:3 & 20:7, it states God’s name as YHWH. Theologians say that “YHWH,” or “Yahweh” is the third person singular form of the ancient Hebrew verb, “haya,” meaning “to be.” The basic thrust of this verb describes the state of existence. As the third person form of haya, Yahweh literally means “He is,” or “He exists.” It is a description of who God is. He is the self-existing one. I think it comes from names being more than names in Hebrew. God’s name, YHWH, is a full sentence --“I am.” Lets remember that even before the language of Hebrew, God existed. So God is simply Himself, “the Self-Existing One.”
 
Names were invented to differentiate between two or more persons, places, or things that are alike (e.g., human beings, cows, cars, etc.). God is one of a kind. Therefore, He needs no name. As has been well explained on this thread, He is Pure Existence. YHVH was not so much a name as a description.

Libraries are indeed great places to learn things – if you understand what you are reading.

To understand the Bible, a good starting point is to learn who wrote it and when and why. It’s not a continuous book, but a collection of writings. Who collected them? When? There’s a very good book for sale here at Catholic Answers: Where We Got the Bible, by Henry G. Graham.

The first thing you need is learn is that the New Testament is not an instruction book on Christianity. The Old Testament is the literary record of the spiritual journey of the People of God called Israel. It took about a thousand years from the time the first “book” was written to the last. The New Testament is the literary record of the spiritual journey of the People of God called the New Israel – the Catholic Church – during the first hundred years or so of its existence. It was a hundred or so years in the writing. And it was a long time before the 27 ‘books’ we know as the NT were selected from among about 200 early Christian writings and canonized. The Catholic Church was nearly 400 years old she formed the New Testament and the Bible.

Peace be with you,

JMJ Jay
 
Jesus told us to call God, or YHWH, our “Father.”

Through Jesus, God becomes our Father.

If your child began calling you by your first name what would you think? If my daughter called me by my first name it would be a sign of disrespect.

I suppose one who doesn’t have a personal relationship with God through Jesus Christ is not his child. How sad that would be.

The term “God” is also a sign of respect. It establishes his position over us.

Calling God, “YHWH” assumes one is his equal.

It’s kind of like walking up to President Bush and saying “Hey George!” If he doesn’t know you, not only is this a sign of disrespect, you’ll have secret service personnel taking you down!

Of course we have one much greater than George Bush here!
 
Jesus told us to call God, or YHWH, our “Father.”

Through Jesus, God becomes our Father.

If your child began calling you by your first name what would you think? If my daughter called me by my first name it would be a sign of disrespect.

I suppose one who doesn’t have a personal relationship with God through Jesus Christ is not his child. How sad that would be.

The term “God” is also a sign of respect. It establishes his position over us.

Calling God, “YHWH” assumes one is his equal.

It’s kind of like walking up to President Bush and saying “Hey George!” If he doesn’t know you, not only is this a sign of disrespect, you’ll have secret service personnel taking you down!

Of course we have one much greater than George Bush here!
 
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Actually, The Jerusalem Bible (the English Bible used for Mass in New Zealand and elsewhere) is a Catholic Bible that does NOT change the tetragammon to read “the LORD”.

“I am Yahweh, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. You shall have no gods except me.”

Exodus 20:2-3, from The Jerusalem Bible

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I have never understood that specific translation of the sacred name. The Tetragrammaton includes the letters for yihyeh (will be), hayah (was) and howeh (is), how did the translators settle on vowels that render the Name dependent on causes? Adding to the confusion is the fact that the four letters of the Tetragrammaton can double as vowels.

Just my ywo shekels.
 
About the Sacred Name:

QUOTE … While it is almost if not quite certain that the Name was pronounced “Yahweh,” this pronounciation was not indicated when the Masoretes added vowel signs to the consonantal Hebrew text. To the four consonants YHWH of the Name, which had come to be regarded as too sacred to pronounce, they [the Masoretes] added vowel signs indicating that in its place should be read the Hebrew word* Adonai* meaning “Lord” (or Elohim meaning “God”). The ancient Greek translators susbstituted the word Kyrios (Lord) for the Name. The Vulgate used the Latin word Dominus.

The word “Jehovah” is of late medieval origin; it is a combination of the consonants and the vowels attached to it by the Masoretes but belonging to an entirely different word . . . the word “Jehovah” does not accurately represent any form of the Name ever used in Hebrew; and the use of any proper name for the one and only God, as though there were other gods from whom He had to be distinguished, was discontinued in Judaism before the Christian era and is entirely inapproriate for the universal faith of the Christian Church. END QUOTE (*The New Oxford Annotated Bible with the Apocrypha, Preface to the Revised Standard Version, p. xiv.) *

JMJ Jay
 
When Moses asked God his name, so he could tell the Egyptians who sent him, God said “Tell them YHWH (I AM) has sent me to you.”

When Jesus said to his listeners, “Before Abraham was, I AM,” his hearers recognized his appropriation of the divine name, and accused him of blasphemy.
 
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i did research and found out that these letters YHWH actually mean a name. guess what it is. youd be surprised. translators have taken the name out because they thought it was sacred so they replaced it with terms lord and god. im not a jw but i did some research at a library. its amazing what you can find in the library.
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Gods peace idontlikyU,

You didn’t have to go to the library, you could have just asked some of us ‘Western’ or ‘Eastern’ Catholics here. We could have saved you some time. The truth is right here in the one true Catholic and apostolic Church.

Now, do you know when and how/why and by whom the word ‘YHWH’ became ‘Jehovah’?
 
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JimG:
When Moses asked God his name, so he could tell the Egyptians who sent him, God said “Tell them YHWH (I AM) has sent me to you.”
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Shemot (Exodus 3:14)
  1. And Moses said to G-d, “Behold I come to the children of Israel, and I say to them, ‘The G-d of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they say to me, ‘What is His name?’ what shall I say to them?”
  2. G-d said to Moses, “Ehyeh asher ehyeh (I will be what I will be),” and He said, “So shall you say to the children of Israel, ‘Ehyeh (I will be) has sent me to you.’”
 
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Katholikos:
About the Sacred Name:

QUOTE … While it is almost if not quite certain that the Name was pronounced “Yahweh,…”
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But why does Yod-he have to be pronounced at Yah and not Yeh? I see no justification for that. The name of G-d isn’t exactly a well kept secret or some lost Arcane kn owledge.

I just wonder why they come to these conclusions.
 
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