Name something weird you heard in a homily

[distracted]

I was once in a daily mass and the gospel is about divorce (Mt. 19:6)… then the priest knowing that he might be offending someone in the pew said…“This is a hard saying let’s focus on the first reading…old testament…”

i have no idea why i am laughing at that…

I guess its the incongruity of it all…

a priest is supposed to have separated himself from the worldly world… (when he chose to be ordained) and yet thye say the stupidest Don’t-Persecute-Me / Please-Everyone-Like-Me kind of nonsense… :banghead: :dts:

 

[distracted]

I
or Pope Benedict IX committed murders and adulteries in broad daylight, robbed pilgrims, and was regarded as a hideous criminal.

or Pope John XXII who was accused by 37 clergy witnesses of fornication, adultery, incest, sodomy, simony, theft and murder. It was proved by a legion of witnesses that he had seduced and violated 300 nuns. He kept a harem at Boulogne of 200 girls. He was publicly called the devil incarnate. He has been called the most depraved criminal who ever sat on the papal throne.

Everyone needs to understand that they have to study the catholic teachings and its history so when they’re confronted with heretical teachings and issues like this they know how to respond.

You should stop ignoring these facts…so you might be able to appreciate more the truth of the Catholic faith.

Knowing these will get people to accept the truth that the Church is perfect but the people in it are sinners. That way, protestants will know what they’ve left…the Eucharist, the Church, and all the treasures of the church and that is because they chose to look at the sinners in it rather than God Himself.

where’d you get this info?

… doesn’t change my love of the Church one bit… and doesn’t make me one bit more cynical about the human race… because i couldn’t possibly become more cynical than i already am… if i tried…

 

[Augustine]

I vent my frustrations with you folks, but I stick with my parish. It’s not fair that a priest’s misbehavior turns sour my masses, but maybe that’s what I need to build my Christian character.

But if it gets to a point that this kind of blabber is all you get, you’re probably starving spiritually. Then, wouldn’t be better to seek another parish that would feed you spiritually?

Additionally, you can say that about yourself, but in case you have children, Mass is the main venue for them to be taught the faith, and what that priest spews is anything but.

 

[Bruno_Schulz]

Hi “distracted” (I just looked up what distracted means; it’s “verwirrt” – you don’t seem to be verwirrt – rather the contrary)

you say it’s true, that in the USA Catholicism is minority; sects and other denominations majority. Do you have statistics? Where to find them?

 

[Bruno_Schulz]

**“nilofc”; what’s your aim pointing out Popes of the dark age who did wrong? Most of these Popes where even Antipopes. Pope Benedict IXth you mentioned, was hated and escaped many assassination attempts. He even finally SOLD his ecclesiastical office to a relative of his.

All these wrongdoers had been a pest and helpmates of Satan himself, but it shows once more the genuine truth of Jesus promise in Mt 16:18: “I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the HELL WILL NEVER OVERCOME IT”.

Now of course hell still tries everything, to do so just in spite. One of hell’s attempts is; to keep in peoples minds, all that went wrong with the Church, including details of those Popes in the Dark Age, and later, when often there was a Pope and an Antipope. We know the word of Jesus in Mat 2:14: “For many are invited, but few are chosen.”
Even during the “Great War” of hell against Jesus Church, the Inquisition, hell did not wipe out Jesus Church in spite of greatest attempts.

But must we really accentuate and put in the net to everyone’s “amusement” all what went wrong with the Church in these 2000 years?!

There is no country in this world, no nation, no tribe, no family, no individual in who’s history nothing went wrong and no black spot or big sin in it’s or his doing or omitting. Black spots also in our very private life, we even ourselves don’t want to recollect - not even secretly let come back to our minds.

So, let’s accentuate the good things of our Church she did in history, behind which all efforts of Satan to undermine the Church, proofed useless. Let’s NEVER become assistants of the gates of hades, to lead peoples attention on black spots, as we ourselves don’t want to be measured by our wrongdoing in our own history.
**

 

[distracted]

Hi “distracted” (I just looked up what distracted means; it’s “verwirrt” – you don’t seem to be verwirrt – rather the contrary)

you say it’s true, that in the USA Catholicism is minority; sects and other denominations majority. Do you have statistics? Where to find them?

most states are 20 -25% Catholic… some are less, some more… i don’t recall where I’ve heard that… i’ve heard it several places / times… I suppose it is hard to tell very accurately because 1 would have to define “Catholic” first & many call themselves Catholic who really are not (…in my book, which says that Catholic means those who folllow the teachings of the Church…So there may be even fewer than that by that definition).

even so, apparently the other Christian churches (so called ) are not doing any better as far as livig up to the lofty title of “true Christian”. If that were the case, McCain would have won…

(of course, there could have been corruption in the vote counting or whatever…I still wonder about that.)

anyway… God bless…

by the way: what does virvurrt mean??

 

[Bruno_Schulz]

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most states are 20 -25% Catholic

Oh really 1/4 Catholics?! I thought it’s a lot less - might be 10%.
But still - might be it’s because of the many Spanish speaking people?

Germany has 83 Million inhabitants.
53 Million of them are Christians (26 Mio. Catholics, 26 Mio. Protestant, 900,000 Orthodox), 3,3 Mio. Moslems, 230,000 Buddhists, 100,000 Jews, 90,000 Hindus.

by the way: what does virvurrt mean??

Just have a look here
woerterbuch.info/?query=distracted&s=dict&l=en

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[distracted]

**

Just have a look here
woerterbuch.info/?query=distracted&s=dict&l=en**

doesn’t do any good to “look here” - i don’t speak any of those languages…

 

[distracted]

**“nilofc”; what’s your aim pointing out Popes of the dark age who did wrong? Most of these Popes where even Antipopes. Pope Benedict IXth you mentioned, was hated and escaped many assassination attempts. He even finally SOLD his ecclesiastical office to a relative of his.

All these wrongdoers had been a pest and helpmates of Satan himself, but it shows once more the genuine truth of Jesus promise in Mt 16:18: “I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the HELL WILL NEVER OVERCOME IT”.

Now of course hell still tries everything, to do so just in spite. One of hell’s attempts is; to keep in peoples minds, all that went wrong with the Church, including details of those Popes in the Dark Age, and later, when often there was a Pope and an Antipope. We know the word of Jesus in Mat 2:14: “For many are invited, but few are chosen.”
Even during the “Great War” of hell against Jesus Church, the Inquisition, hell did not wipe out Jesus Church in spite of greatest attempts.

But must we really accentuate and put in the net to everyone’s “amusement” all what went wrong with the Church in these 2000 years?!

There is no country in this world, no nation, no tribe, no family, no individual in who’s history nothing went wrong and no black spot or big sin in it’s or his doing or omitting. Black spots also in our very private life, we even ourselves don’t want to recollect - not even secretly let come back to our minds.

So, let’s accentuate the good things of our Church she did in history, behind which all efforts of Satan to undermine the Church, proofed useless. Let’s NEVER become assistants of the gates of hades, to lead peoples attention on black spots, as we ourselves don’t want to be measured by our wrongdoing in our own history.
**

i think we need to look at the bad and the good… If the bad popes yo mention had much influence, there wouldn’t be so many Catholics today. Of course, there really aren’t very many REAL Catholics (who believe what the Church teaches 100%)… but anyway… the Catholic Church is actually one ofthe fastest growing religions nowadays… so all that bad history doesn’t seem to have much effect… People know that humans are not perfect…

God bless…

 

[Bruno_Schulz]

If the bad popes yo mention

Hey - 't wasn’t me who mentioned them!
I never would (as I pointed out) !

 

[brigid12]

Quite a bit of very uncharitable gossip about “some people” he’d recently seen.

 

[Augustine]

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Germany has 83 Million inhabitants.
53 Million of them are Christians (26 Mio. Catholics, 26 Mio. Protestant, 900,000 Orthodox), 3,3 Mio. Moslems, 230,000 Buddhists, 100,000 Jews, 90,000 Hindus.
**

Wow, merely 60% of the German population is Christian? Given that just a few decades ago most of Germany was Christian, have so many really apostatized or been raised outside any religion?

 

[wynnejj]

I heard a sermon that relates to blindness of a nation’s leaders and people when entrenched in an intrinsic evil on a national scale that goes largely unopposed and therefore accepted by a society for too long. Those people who can see the terrible evil for what it is, wonder “Where is God?” or “Does God really exist?” when they realize that the evil persists unchecked and denied by a society that is often predominantly Christian.

The priest cited the example of a survey in current day Russia that asked people who they thought were their best leaders. Survey said… first, the last czar Nicholas (who was responsible for the execution of thousands) and second, Stalin (who was responsible for the deaths of 30 million). The priest then went on with the assertion that there are still Germans today who would argue that Hitler was a great leader in many ways.

But wait a second, before feeling self-satisfied that because we can see the blindness to evil of another nation, that we as Americans can never be blind. There are grave social injustices in our capitalistic system which result in the “looting of billions” from citizens through greed, graft, and corruption.

When he cited the last example of “looting of billions”, I couldn’t believe that he had neglected to cite the 50 million aborted babies. After all, the preceding examples were all about mass murder, not mass stealing. To me, the priest unwittingly showed that he was blind on the issue of abortion. He had been “dumb and numb” on the issue for far too long.

 

[quiet52]

Wow, merely 60% of the German population is Christian? Given that just a few decades ago most of Germany was Christian, have so many really apostatized or been raised outside any religion?

Thanks to artificial conception and abortion the last 40 years or so, many Christians have decided not to replace themselves. I guess so many Christians no longer believe in being fruitful and multiplying in the sacrament of Matrimony. I wish this could be a topic addressed from the pulpit.

Germany’s population growth rate is -0.044% (2008 est.)
indexmundi.com/germany/population_growth_rate.htm

 

[Pacbox]

Not heard but saw: Play-doh. Yes, I’m talking Play-doh, the stuff children play with.
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This was part of the homily last Sunday (first Sunday of Advent) and related to the first reading about being potter and clay. Father had four people come up to the front of the Sanctuary and play with the Play-doh and “create” something. He spent 30 seconds on the fact that it’s Advent and the rest of the time going on about being moulded. I seriously considered getting up and leaving because Father’s homilies are pretty much touchy-feely goody-fun entertainment and not about preaching the Gospel and the teaching of the Church. I seriously wonder if I’ve wandered into a protestant church or a TV show. There are Sundays when I feel exactly that, especially when the music has nothing to do with the Mass and the homily is about a football team and Father’s idea of fun and pop therapy and won’t go near Church teachings because they “might offend someone” and he doesn’t want to hear criticism because it “hurts him.” I want a Priest not a pretender.

 

[Bruno_Schulz]

Wow, merely 60% of the German population is Christian? Given that just a few decades ago most of Germany was Christian, have so many really apostatized or been raised outside any religion?

**Sadly enough, I must say: How right you are!

When I was in school, there where Catholics an Protestants only. When we had “Religion”, 50% of the kids went to this and 50% to that classroom. No others.

Heartbreaking enough of course, because all Jews had been deported to “Konzentrationslager” Concentration-Camps and nearly all of them had been murdered. 5 Mio Jews where murdered. (Many Catholics too though, but the 5 Mio where Jews only - in the area held by Nazi-Germany). Only Stalin murdered more of his people, but that’s no excuse at all.

The Apostolic Nuncio in Germany and Austria – the later Pope Pius XII. who condemned Hitlers Regime, was from 1936 on, not allowed to enter the seat of government, nor any Nazi-office.

In fact, I don’t really think, that Germany ever will recover from this hellish doing, and I often wrote; it looks as so if Germany would dissolve in a mixture of other nations, just as the rotten Rome did around 350 and had finally vanished around 400.

Adding the fact, that our Government is proud to be (for the historic reason of Hitler) the most tolerant in Europe, our wrong led “tolerance” disregards Christianity as simply “one of this religions” and it’s free to parents to either send their kids to the school subject “Religion” or not. To Moslems school subject “Religion” is given, whilst in Catholic or Protestant voluntary religion hours, you might find non, up to 5 pupils. In many classes we have 75% Moslems-Childen. If Christians don’t want to attend “Religion” in school, they have to attend the subject “Ethics” which has very little to do with Christianity. 90% do so. That kills us.

But we have fiends of Poland. Catholics. They moan, that it’s very similar there. Hardly any foreigners though, but vanishing Christianity; though Poland was nearly 100% rom. Catholic before Communist times.

So – our today’s 60% Christians will soon change to the worse. Moslems are rapidly increasing, and so is the vastly increasing number of people who don’t believe anything at all.
(A problem world-wide. I was shocked to meet a lot of Atheists in Israel among Jews).

Many in Germany leave Church just to save Church-Tax. More than one reason for a country to dispel.**

 

[SamDash]

It’s funny, as I read through these posts, I can’t remember a single homily that has really stuck with me. (That’s not a criticism.)

I do recall a visiting priest seem to say that Purgatory and Hell were the same thing, but that may have been due to some trouble with his English. (He was Vietnamese, as I recall).

And is there some rule that EVERY homily must start with a joke? Usually an old, corny joke.

For example, you may be familiar with the exchange between Nancy Astor and Winston Churchill that went something like:

NA: If I were your wife, I would poison your tea.
WC: If I were your husband, I would drink it.

Last week, our priest opened with that story, substituting “a bishop” and “a little old lady” as the actors.

 

[Biblioassistant]

I’ve only walked out of church once, but it wasn’t for a homily it was at the Good Friday service. Here’s what I saw: The priest processed down the aisle and then sat down in the first pew. He read the opening prayer. Then several lectors read the readings and Passion (with dim light and “mood music” to enhance it). All this time, father was in the front pew. Then came the petitions. They were all read by laypeople, again with mood music, dramatic lighting and windchimes tinkling in the background. Father was still in the pew.

I left. I couldn’t bear to see what would happen during the veneration of the cross.

 

[Snowy]

I heard a sermon that relates to blindness of a nation’s leaders and people when entrenched in an intrinsic evil on a national scale that goes largely unopposed and therefore accepted by a society for too long. Those people who can see the terrible evil for what it is, wonder “Where is God?” or “Does God really exist?” when they realize that the evil persists unchecked and denied by a society that is often predominantly Christian.

The priest cited the example of a survey in current day Russia that asked people who they thought were their best leaders. Survey said… first, the last czar Nicholas (who was responsible for the execution of thousands) and second, Stalin (who was responsible for the deaths of 30 million). The priest then went on with the assertion that there are still Germans today who would argue that Hitler was a great leader in many ways.

But wait a second, before feeling self-satisfied that because we can see the blindness to evil of another nation, that we as Americans can never be blind. There are grave social injustices in our capitalistic system which result in the “looting of billions” from citizens through greed, graft, and corruption.

When he cited the last example of “looting of billions”, I couldn’t believe that he had neglected to cite the 50 million aborted babies. After all, the preceding examples were all about mass murder, not mass stealing. To me, the priest unwittingly showed that he was blind on the issue of abortion. He had been “dumb and numb” on the issue for far too long.

That sounds just like my priest. Am I the only one who reads in between lines that President Bush is just like Stalin and Hitler?

 

[Snowy]

But if it gets to a point that this kind of blabber is all you get, you’re probably starving spiritually. Then, wouldn’t be better to seek another parish that would feed you spiritually?

Additionally, you can say that about yourself, but in case you have children, Mass is the main venue for them to be taught the faith, and what that priest spews is anything but.

I can’t blame you, Augustine; from now on I’ll go to my parish for my confirmation classes, I’ll send them a check each month, and attend a few social gatherings. For my spiritual needs I’ll attend a monks’ church I found yesterday, because I’m not saintly enough to not let my priest ruin the Mass for me. God bless you.