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Of course slavery persisted. But many people knew there was something evil about it. The slave trade was carried out by individual citizens of Europe countries that banned slavery at home.
Name three changes in our culture that would surprise someone from the past
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ZMystiCat
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Who died and made everyone Pope?!?! Because it wasn’t Jesus!
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GEddie
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Your point 1 would shock nobody, as such behavior is as old as Scripture.
Otherwise, +1
Otherwise, +1
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glencor63
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Do you really think no one would be shocked by the state of morals in our society?
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glencor63
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The Christian faith is strongest among those to whom missionaries were sent, not among the nations where it once thrived and flourished. What is the reaction from our ancestors?
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Well, saddened, yes…But that wouldn’t be too shocking to them, since people in every generation have been told the current state of morality is lamentable
What would be shockingly different to them is that immorality now has its own lobby, powerful people who do not themselves commit these deeds but defend them as a Right.
They wouldn’t be shocked by Trump. They would be shocked by Obama.
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Never also have my children and grandchildren heard the pre-dawn clip clop of horses pulling the milk cart around the streets in daily delivery of milk. Nor are they familiar with the daily bread delivery.
They have not known the double delivery of mail, morning and afternoons, and on Saturdays, with the ‘postman’ on his cycle making a short blast of his whistle when he deposited letters in the post box.
Nor have they received a telegram of urgent family news or of congratulations or at the door. We had never heard of computers or email; and telephone calls were always personally connected by an operator.
Toasters were not ‘pop-up. They had side flaps that one opened to turn and to retrieve the toast, hopefully before it burned. When I toasted bread for family breakfast, I took care to ensure that the toast was golden.
I recall how silly it seemed to read of a man on the moon or spaceships. Thus, we watched in awe on a black-and-white television when they sent a monkey into space, and the first man went into space, and then we watched spellbound when Neil Armstrong and the others set down on the moon. I wanted to talk about it to the girls at college, but they were still speaking of boys even after such an event.
Our music came from the radio (then more commonly called the 'wireless’) or from flat hard-plastic records placed on the gramophone turntable, with music created through the passage of the gramophone needle in the sound grooves.
I remember in the early 1960’s when transistor radios appeared, and women began to wear ‘trousers’, then later, short miniskirts. I remember, when suddenly, the town bristled with bent T.V. antennas during a strong windstorm. A friend of my parents allowed us to visit once weekly to see “Hop-along Cassidy” on their new black-and–white television.
Change was normal.
Schoolchildren surged to the railway Station to welcome the first electric train to town, heralding the end of the familiar, impressive steam train; and Dad became one of the first City Councillors when the town was declared a city. Later, my granddaughter would not dream of wearing a hat and gloves to a job interview, but it was still a requirement my mother encouraged when I originally applied for work.
They have not known the double delivery of mail, morning and afternoons, and on Saturdays, with the ‘postman’ on his cycle making a short blast of his whistle when he deposited letters in the post box.
Nor have they received a telegram of urgent family news or of congratulations or at the door. We had never heard of computers or email; and telephone calls were always personally connected by an operator.
Toasters were not ‘pop-up. They had side flaps that one opened to turn and to retrieve the toast, hopefully before it burned. When I toasted bread for family breakfast, I took care to ensure that the toast was golden.
I recall how silly it seemed to read of a man on the moon or spaceships. Thus, we watched in awe on a black-and-white television when they sent a monkey into space, and the first man went into space, and then we watched spellbound when Neil Armstrong and the others set down on the moon. I wanted to talk about it to the girls at college, but they were still speaking of boys even after such an event.
Our music came from the radio (then more commonly called the 'wireless’) or from flat hard-plastic records placed on the gramophone turntable, with music created through the passage of the gramophone needle in the sound grooves.
I remember in the early 1960’s when transistor radios appeared, and women began to wear ‘trousers’, then later, short miniskirts. I remember, when suddenly, the town bristled with bent T.V. antennas during a strong windstorm. A friend of my parents allowed us to visit once weekly to see “Hop-along Cassidy” on their new black-and–white television.
Change was normal.
Schoolchildren surged to the railway Station to welcome the first electric train to town, heralding the end of the familiar, impressive steam train; and Dad became one of the first City Councillors when the town was declared a city. Later, my granddaughter would not dream of wearing a hat and gloves to a job interview, but it was still a requirement my mother encouraged when I originally applied for work.
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Some changes are reflective of scientific developments. My boys experienced refrigerators to keep our food cold, as did my family by the time I was nine or ten. Prior to that, we had a green ‘icebox’ that had a separate upper door to an ice compartment with thick metal lining. Each week the iceman came along the streets in his van, to bring large oblong blocks of ice for the icebox. My father would chip the ice to shape for the compartment in the top of the icebox, and once the icepick slipped, right though his thumb and finger. He made no sound; only, at Mum’s request he later showed us the holes with a smile on his face. I wondered if men feel pain, if they felt things as we did. Children would run to the back of iceman’s truck to ask him for chips of clear ice to suck.
Milk containers were not plastic or cardboard as is customary now, but generally were pint glass bottles. For decades, third-pint bottles of milk were daily delivered to the nation’s primary schools for each child. This supplement to the diet of Australian children was only discontinued when my sons were pre-schoolers. The gold or silver, and occasionally red, blue or green foil bottle tops that were crimped over the milk bottles were a resource for Christmas decorations both at home and at school. The tops were scalloped into shape over fluted lemon squeezers and then threaded. Colourful crepe paper was cut into lengths then progressively folded into each other to become bright three-dimensional garlands taped to corners and draped around the rooms. Garlands were also created out of colourful paper looped in rings. Christmas along with other seasons, was more intimate and less commercialised when I was young.
Milk containers were not plastic or cardboard as is customary now, but generally were pint glass bottles. For decades, third-pint bottles of milk were daily delivered to the nation’s primary schools for each child. This supplement to the diet of Australian children was only discontinued when my sons were pre-schoolers. The gold or silver, and occasionally red, blue or green foil bottle tops that were crimped over the milk bottles were a resource for Christmas decorations both at home and at school. The tops were scalloped into shape over fluted lemon squeezers and then threaded. Colourful crepe paper was cut into lengths then progressively folded into each other to become bright three-dimensional garlands taped to corners and draped around the rooms. Garlands were also created out of colourful paper looped in rings. Christmas along with other seasons, was more intimate and less commercialised when I was young.
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glencor63
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There’s a certain feeling to your memories. I felt strangely melancholy and wistful.
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DarkLight
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Even the fact that most people have jobs that don’t require activity. The shift to the “desk job” as a major component of the workforce is big.
Not just that we have it, but how reliant we are on it. I know I literally couldn’t get anything more than part time retail until I bought a car.
Our faith started in a culture where leaving babies outside to die was perfectly morally acceptable, slaves were seen as sexually available to their masters, divorce and homosexuality were rampant, and it was perfectly acceptable to enslave people for being unable to pay a debt.
Or look at medieval times. Prostitution was openly practiced in most major cities, and getting men to stop going was seen as impossible. The mistresses of the rich and powerful attended court openly. High level clergy bought and sold church offices and used them as tools for wealth and political power.
Point is, people have always found ways to sin.
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ZMystiCat
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And this still happens in parts of the world. When I was in India, I volunteered for a couple days at an orphanage, and the guy running it said many of the children that were there had basically been thrown out as babies and left as food for jackals. He lamented that it was still a common problem that very few in India seemed willing to acknowledge.
And want their sins to be socially acceptable and/or celebrated. Yeah, I’d imagine the Church Fathers would lament Pride, but they’d hardly be confused by it. If anything, they’d probably be more confused by Fourth of July.
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Dougbro1
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- We have these little metal devices with glass screens called iPhones that can do pretty much anything
- We don’t have to dip our pens in ink bottles to make them write.
- We are going downhill morally as more immoral things become legally protected.
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GEddie
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Prostitution being increasingly condemned, except in a few niche countries, while at the same time young people literally giving sex away, “for fun.”
A culture maddened by sexuality, yet people of their own will remaining childless. Even CS Lewis wrote up this one.
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A culture maddened by sexuality, yet people of their own will remaining childless. Even CS Lewis wrote up this one.
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They’d be shocked at how fast news travels around the world and that you can watch events as they unfold live.
They would also be shocked at the large mix of people from all the over the world in today’s society.
The level of wealth in our country and the world (disregarding inflation) has increased vastly.
They would also be shocked at the large mix of people from all the over the world in today’s society.
The level of wealth in our country and the world (disregarding inflation) has increased vastly.
I can’t help thinking that ancient Rome was worse.
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glencor63
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I think they would be extremely shocked and filled with remorse at how slavery, racism, anti-semitism, and colonialism has impacted our world. The short-sightedness in the acquisition of wealth and power at all costs resulted in a Civil War, WW I & II, Jim Crow, the destruction of countless Native Americans, Aborigines and the Holocaust.
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Interesting thing my mom told me.
Back in the “olden days” of the Sixties, office workers weren’t supposed to snack at their desk. Even a cup of coffee was taboo at the desk in many places because of the risk of spills.
That’s why they had coffee breaks where you were supposed to leave your desk for the coffee.
If you were thirsty in between ,you went to the water cooler, drank the water there, then went back to your desk.
I worked in an office environment in the 90s and there was forever somebody bringing in treats and it was okay to snack at the desk. That was around the time they came out with the fat-free cookies and chips and everybody was all “these are great! Fat free!”
Overlooking the fact that to make up for flavor lost by getting rid of fat meant to put more sugar and salt in the treats.
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