Name your reasons why you are not Protestant/ Non-Catholic Christian.

[Mannyfit75]

1. Sola Scriptura
2. Faith Alone
3. The variety of menu of belief of doctrine that contradict one another.
4. OSAS.
5. Rapture (Christian will escape tribulation and taken up into heaven based on John Darby in the 19th Century interpretation; yet Christ told us that we must bear our crosses. The Great Tribulation is the most difficult Cross we can bare so we should embrace it.
6. No Real Presence (No Eucharist; mainly in the Evanglical Protestantism).
7. No central authority to discuss moral and faith issue expect your own private interpretation of the Bible (hence making you your own Personal Pope)

 

[pedja]

1. Sola Scriptura
2. Faith Alone
3. The variety of menu of belief of doctrine that contradict one another.
4. OSAS.
5. Rapture (Christian will escape tribulation and taken up into heaven based on John Darby in the 19th Century interpretation; yet Christ told us that we must bear our crosses. The Great Tribulation is the most difficult Cross we can bare so we should embrace it.
6. No Real Presence (No Eucharist; mainly in the Evanglical Protestantism).
7. No central authority to discuss moral and faith issue expect your own private interpretation of the Bible (hence making you your own Personal Pope)

Dude are you seriously in Iraq right now?!

 

[calchiquita]

1. Sola Scriptura
2. Faith Alone
3. The variety of menu of belief of doctrine that contradict one another.
4. OSAS.
5. Rapture (Christian will escape tribulation and taken up into heaven based on John Darby in the 19th Century interpretation; yet Christ told us that we must bear our crosses. The Great Tribulation is the most difficult Cross we can bare so we should embrace it.
6. No Real Presence (No Eucharist; mainly in the Evanglical Protestantism).
7. No central authority to discuss moral and faith issue expect your own private interpretation of the Bible (hence making you your own Personal Pope)

No Real Presence.

And I don’t mean not believing in the Real Presence. Lutherans believe in the Real Presence but don’t have valid ordinations so where does that leave me?

 

[lizaanne]

1. Sola Scriptura
2. Faith Alone
3. The variety of menu of belief of doctrine that contradict one another.
4. OSAS.
5. Rapture (Christian will escape tribulation and taken up into heaven based on John Darby in the 19th Century interpretation; yet Christ told us that we must bear our crosses. The Great Tribulation is the most difficult Cross we can bare so we should embrace it.
6. No Real Presence (No Eucharist; mainly in the Evanglical Protestantism).
7. No central authority to discuss moral and faith issue expect your own private interpretation of the Bible (hence making you your own Personal Pope)

All of the above.

~Liza

 

[sterryfamily]

Sorry…mine is OTHER.

I just want to follow Jesus. He told us He came to establish His Church. This Church follows the heirarchical understanding of first century Jews and Christ promised His eternal protection to her.

“Anyone who hears you hears Me. Any who reject you reject Me and the One who sent Me.”

 

[Future_Prodigy]

I love the whole valid ordination issue, thats always a funny one… luther breaks away from the church saying its corrupt and has everything wrong and starts his own lineage (coming legitmately from rome) and then its said as being unvalid. I always wonder how catholcis deal with the issue concerning the Spirit working within the church. Many denominations obviously are blessed and moved by the spirit in what they do, so is this a false or fake spirt not the Holy Spirit?

 

[6YRSHOME]

I will give you my reasons why I rejected the protestant churches that I belonged to.

1. Sola Scriptura

Yes, even though they both relied on extra-biblical sources for thier interpretations.

1. Faith Alone

Actually that wasn’t an issue. SDA’s don’t hold to the OSAS.

1. The variety of menu of belief of doctrine that contradict one another.

Oh, don’t even get me started.

1. OSAS.

See above

1. Rapture (Christian will escape tribulation and taken up into heaven based on John Darby in the 19th Century interpretation; yet Christ told us that we must bear our crosses. The Great Tribulation is the most difficult Cross we can bare so we should embrace it.

I never even heard of it until my MIL gave me the first Left Behind, but that’s a whole other story.

1. No Real Presence (No Eucharist; mainly in the Evanglical Protestantism).

Yes! I look back on the communion services and realize that they felt so empty and hollow. I’m not sure what it was, I just remember that it always feeling like it wasn’t real. I can’t really put it into words.

1. No central authority to discuss moral and faith issue expect your own private interpretation of the Bible (hence making you your own Personal Pope)

That’s one of my biggest issues. To me, Christ leaving His Church with no earthly authoritative head is like giving a classroom full of students a textbook, and no teacher and saying, “Sorry, you’re on your own.Good Luck on your final.”

1. False Prophet.

I had to add this one because I grew up in the SDA church.

 

[Heath_Bar]

1. Eucharist
2. Eucharist
3. See above

 

[MarcoPolo]

Good points Mannyfit. I also gotta go with the more positive approach specific to the Catholic Church in that it embodies the whole truth. The simple answer is the Bible describes the Catholic Church as the true Church. I plug my own thread here for the short version.

But another negative toward non-Catholic Christian denominations, is although they share in the mystical body of Christ with us through their baptism, I find their teaching often so complacent…such as “why do we need all this stuff about Mary, or Purgatory, or the Saints, or the Mass, or whatever…you just have to believe in Jesus as Savior (the faith alone notion).”

A couple things though…

1. That those true teachiings are revealed only by the Catholic Church is a testament to it’s authenticity as Christ’s Church.
2. The Bible is some odd-thousands of pages long. It doesn’t just say “Believe in Jesus.” Believing in Jesus entails a lot.
3. Jesus said He is the Way, the TRUTH, and the Life. So the more TRUTH you have, the more Christ you have…in a sense. And these God-revealed truths bring us closer to Christ.

 

[tundramom]

Ultimately for me I guess I had a “John 6 experience”. Lord you have the words of everlasting life… where else should we go?"

Also the authority of 2000 years of the church, after dealing with some Evangelical churches which, while believing mostly the same things, changed this and that. I had enough of “revolving doctrine” as a Mormon!

I’m so happy to be Home!

in Christ
Steph

 

[Genesis315]

St. Jerome, in writing to Pope St. Damasus I, gives my reasons:

“As I follow no leader save Christ, so I am in communion with none but your blessedness, that is with the chair of Peter. For this, I know, is the rock on which the church is built! This is the house where alone the Paschal Lamb can be rightly eaten. This is the ark of Noah, and he who is not found in it shall perish when the flood prevails.”

 

[mrs_abbott]

Because I’m scared to leave a church that I was born and raised in. All my family is Catholic and I don’t know where I’d go or what I’d do. Plus, something feels right about staying where I’m at, even though I don’t agree with everything the CC teaches.

 

[cazayoux]

I always wonder how catholcis deal with the issue concerning the Spirit working within the church. Many denominations obviously are blessed and moved by the spirit in what they do, so is this a false or fake spirt not the Holy Spirit?

I don’t think the Catholic Church says that other Christian faiths have no truth.
They do.
However, I would say they do not have the fullness of truth.
What IS the pillar and bullwark of the truth?
How do I find that pillar and bullwark?

michel

 

[exiled]

Suffering.
For protestants it is pointless and has no supernatural value.
For Catholic, there is a purpose and a good greater than anything we could put into mere words.

 

[cazayoux]

1. The Bible is some odd-thousands of pages long. It doesn’t just say “Believe in Jesus.” Believing in Jesus entails a lot.

I agree.
I think that if OSAS or if just believing were enough, Paul’s letters to those already-Christians would have been much shorter… along the lines of …

“no worries, you’re good to go.”

michel

 

[Grateful4mercy]

For me our church has a fullness I can’t find anywhere else.

I love to compare Mass to a glass of wine. It has a rich, earthy flavor with hints of old oak and fresh cut flowers, filling the senses beyond their range of comprehension. It is complex, bitter-sweet, with a bright beginning and a lasting finish.

If you begin to take parts away, to remove the ‘pagan rituals’ it will start to distill down to it’s elemental form, 100% alcohol. Sure you still get Jesus, but you will lose all the depth and richness of a human being in love with his God.

That’s been my experience, anyway. Great worship, but I am hungry again 20 minutes later.

 

[Mannyfit75]

I forgot to mention, Protestants are not unified in doctrines. There is no central authority to watch over the sheep…

 

[MarcoPolo]

I agree.
I think that if OSAS or if just believing were enough, Paul’s letters to those already-Christians would have been much shorter… along the lines of …

“no worries, you’re good to go.”

michel

:whacky: Too true!

 

[Supercatholic]

I love the whole valid ordination issue, thats always a funny one… luther breaks away from the church saying its corrupt and has everything wrong and starts his own lineage (coming legitmately from rome) and then its said as being unvalid. I always wonder how catholcis deal with the issue concerning the Spirit working within the church. Many denominations obviously are blessed and moved by the spirit in what they do, so is this a false or fake spirt not the Holy Spirit?

Luther was partially right. There was (and still is) corruption in the church, but as a whole the church was not (and still isn’t) corrupt. Regardless of Luther’s lineage he was only a monk, not a bishop, and only bishops can ordain men into the priesthood, but it must be done in accordance to the Catholic Church. NOT his personal interests. Luther’s split from the Catholic church is no different than a general quitting the US Army, recruiting his own soldiers and then trying to call it the US Army. If you think the Holy Spirit is working in all the denominations (THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS NOT A DENOMINATION) then you either believe in a schizophrenic Holy Spirit that doesn’t know what to think or an awnry (sp?) Holy Spirit that enjoys confusing everyone. Is it once saved always saved? Or you can lose your salvation.? Some denominations say you need baptism, others dont. Some baptize infants (calling it a presentation to the lord) others either baptize adults only or no one at all. Some respectfully believe in the doctrine of the real presence in the eucharist. Some think it’s only a memorial meal. And others won’t do it at all because they think the eucharist is blasphemy. So to answer your question, YES it is a false and fake spirit not the Holy Spirit.

 

[Jon_Hus]

…Luther was partially right. … If you think the Holy Spirit is working in all the denominations (THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS NOT A DENOMINATION) then you either believe in a schizophrenic Holy Spirit that doesn’t know what to think or an awnry (sp?) Holy Spirit that enjoys confusing everyone. … So to answer your question, YES it is a false and fake spirit not the Holy Spirit.

Much to comment on here but in brief let me say it’s an honor and privilege to be able to communicate directly with 1. The spokesman of the 3rd person of the Trinity, 2. a Luther scholar and expert on reformation history 3. a gifted psychiatrist.

Awsome post, thanks!