Nation States vs. One World

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We are beginning to see the emerging “point” of the one worlders who believe that it’s time for individual naton states to disappear - this is one of those emerging “papers” which is going to try and use Christian principles to push for it.

Toward the abolition of the nation state? -
In the run-up to elections to the European Parliament, Ekklesia has published a paper that urges churches not to be diverted by the debate about whether God gets a name check in the EU constitution from weightier questions such as what value there is in national identity and the nation state.

“Towards the Abolition of the Nation State? European and National Identity in Christian Perspective” is written by Canon Richard Franklin and represents a joint publication by Sarum College in Salisbury and the theological think-tank Ekklesia .

"…The paper argues that rather than pushing for the recognition of Christianity in the EU constitution the key question that must be addressed is whether the idea of the nation state has any value.

Canon Richard Franklin concurs with one leading theologian who has addressed the question of Europe, Wolfhart Pannenberg, who says that ‘the modern elevation of the nation as the dominant model of political action can be seen as a contradiction to the international traditions of Christianity and to their source in the Christian hope that all humans may participate in the Kingdom of God.’

Richard Franklin said; “The spirit of universalism, internationalism and Catholicism which is at the heart of the Christian faith means that narrow patriotism and nationalistic bigotry are inimical to the gospel.”

But he points out, Christians are far from immune themselves in following such patterns.

“Christians have often equated their religion with their national loyalties and nationalist leaders have used Christianity in its various forms as a tool for the establishment of national cultural homogeneity”, Franklin says. “But seeing one’s own nation as specially chosen leads to sinful self-aggrandisement and a failure to recognise that all individuals and communities are subject to universal divine Lordship and judgement.”

The paper points out that spiritual equality and unity and the breaking down of racial, cultural and religious barriers are central to the New Testament and the main currents of Christian political theology. Since internationalism is at the heart of Christian political thought, it suggests, it is legitimate to consider whether the nation-state or, indeed, anything short of some kind of comprehensive international political unity can be justified.

Richard Franklin continues; “Nation states must not view themselves as ‘ends in themselves’. They are a phenomenon of political history which have many defects. In Christian perspective they can have practical, but only transient, value as a step on the road towards the wider political unit implied by the gospel.”

However the author also points out that the ‘Fortress Europe’ mentality is a temptation towards an excluding Empire that must be resisted.

“Politically the EU exists to allow the flourishing of all other forms of collective identity contained within a framework which does not allow natural differences to develop into anything that is destructive”, he says…"

ekklesia.co.uk/content/article_040601.shtml
 
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Ok, well, here’s my two cents:

Satan loves to twist the truth of Christianity doesn’t he??

Protecting the rights of the individual is not the same as “being selfish” or “nationally bigoted” (huh??), and therefore contrary to the gospel!

Catholic means universal, as in UNIVERSAL TRUTH, not “we are of one big universe, and we should discard our individual personhood, or familyhood, or statehood.”

Uh, uh.
 
So are “nation states” and “one world” the only two viable options now? What ever happened to empires? How about city-states? Feudalism? Maybe someday soon we’ll see the Duke of Boston gather up an army and declare war on the Baron of the Bronx!
 
Bobby Jim:
So are “nation states” and “one world” the only two viable options now? What ever happened to empires? How about city-states? Feudalism? Maybe someday soon we’ll see the Duke of Boston gather up an army and declare war on the Baron of the Bronx!
Shilling vs. Pavano???
 
Shoot! I was hoping that this was about another global online game.
 
Richard Franklin continues; “Nation states must not view themselves as ‘ends in themselves’. They are a phenomenon of political history which have many defects. In Christian perspective they can have practical, but only transient, value as a step on the road towards the wider political unit implied by the gospel.”
Hmm, I guess I just wasn’t aware that the gospel implied any sort of “wider political unit” other than the kingdom of God.

In any case, federations of nations are an unlikely candidate to replace nation states in the future. More likely would be the growth of the corporation as a multi-national entity, growing in importance as nations became less important.
 
Cardinal George has commented that he thinks the way the pope perceives the future moving (as an observation not necessarily being for or against) is away from nation-states and toward cultures in conversation.
 
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Cardinal George has commented that he thinks the way the pope perceives the future moving (as an observation not necessarily being for or against) is away from nation-states and toward cultures in conversation.
I would say there is a great deal of truth in that observation.
 
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Hmm, I guess I just wasn’t aware that the gospel implied any sort of “wider political unit” other than the kingdom of God.

In any case, federations of nations are an unlikely candidate to replace nation states in the future. More likely would be the growth of the corporation as a multi-national entity, growing in importance as nations became less important.
The “elephant in the center of the room” that people who think this way never can admit to is that in these “eglatarian utopias” there are some always more equal than others, and always, always they see themselves in “charge” of others.

I believe that in the past 30 years or so, we have begun to see the “twisting” and co-opting if you will, of the religious gospel into social and political agendas under various names for the ulterior motives of their adherents. It is as Dennis Prager points out, blasphemy, using the name of God to do work not of God, and giving Him a bad name, of doing damange to His reputation. That’s why as Prager puts it, there are extremely severe spiritual consequences and it shows up as the Second Commandment, right after the first one, which establishes who God is and that it is He we are to worship.
 
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