Nativity -1 ?

[cyber_priest]

And while, they were there, the time came for her(Mary) delivery. And she gave birth to her son(Jesus), her firstborn; and she wrapped Him in swaddling clothes and laid Him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn(hotel) - Luke 2:6-7(AMP)

Joseph and his pregnant wife, Mary first went to the inn or hotel, before going to the manger. The manger was not their first choice. Infact, they never expected to wind up in the manger. The family had the resources, to pay for better accommodation at the inn or hotel, but there was one problem. There was no room available, even though, they had the means to pay for it.
So, contrary to popular belief, Jesus was not born in a manger, because His family was too poor or homeless. The Joseph family was not destitute. In those days, just as in these days, not everyone could afford to stay at the inn or hotel, but the parents of Jesus could. Therefore, they weren’t poverty-stricken, as commonly portrayed.

Is not this (Jesus) the carpenter’s son? - Matthew 13:55(AMP)

Joseph, the earthly father of Jesus was a carpenter by trade, a prestigious profession in those days. He was gainfully employed. He was not unemployed, homeless and penniless. And from the above scripture, we can safely conclude, that Joseph was a well known carpenter in the community.

So they(the shepherds) went with haste, and found Mary and Joseph, and the baby(Jesus) lying in the manger - Luke 2:15-16(AMP)

Only the shepherds, visited Jesus as a baby in the manger. The wise men never ever came to the manger. And the shepherds and the wisemen never ever met. There is no record, of the shepherds and the wisemen meeting nor the wisemen visiting the manger.
Christmas cards, plays and nativity scenes, commonly depict, both the shepherds and the wisemen, together, visiting the manger. This is not factual. There is no record to support it. Only the shepherds, came to the manger, when Jesus was a newly born baby.

And (the wisemen) on going into the house(not manger), they saw the child(not baby) with His mother(Mary), and they fell down and worshipped Him(Jesus) - Matthew 2:11(AMP)

The wisemen visited Jesus as a child, not as a baby and at the house, not the manger. The shepherds and the wisemen, visited Jesus at very different stages in His life.
Again, there is no record, of how many wisemen, visited Jesus. But, it has been commonly assumed, that they were three, simply because they brought three kinds of gifts. But, any number of wisemen, could have brought three kinds of gifts.

Also see 'Nativity - 2 ?

Happy Christmas
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[dianaiad]

And while, they were there, the time came for her(Mary) delivery. And she gave birth to her son(Jesus), her firstborn; and she wrapped Him in swaddling clothes and laid Him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn(hotel) - Luke 2:6-7(AMP)

Joseph and his pregnant wife, Mary first went to the inn or hotel, before going to the manger. The manger was not their first choice. Infact, they never expected to wind up in the manger. The family had the resources, to pay for better accommodation at the inn or hotel, but there was one problem. There was no room available, even though, they had the means to pay for it.
So, contrary to popular belief, Jesus was not born in a manger, because His family was too poor or homeless. The Joseph family was not destitute. In those days, just as in these days, not everyone could afford to stay at the inn or hotel, but the parents of Jesus could. Therefore, they weren’t poverty-stricken, as commonly portrayed.

Is not this (Jesus) the carpenter’s son? - Matthew 13:55(AMP)

Joseph, the earthly father of Jesus was a carpenter by trade, a prestigious profession in those days. He was gainfully employed. He was not unemployed, homeless and penniless. And from the above scripture, we can safely conclude, that Joseph was a well known carpenter in the community.

So they(the shepherds) went with haste, and found Mary and Joseph, and the baby(Jesus) lying in the manger - Luke 2:15-16(AMP)

Only the shepherds, visited Jesus as a baby in the manger. The wise men never ever came to the manger. And the shepherds and the wisemen never ever met. There is no record, of the shepherds and the wisemen meeting nor the wisemen visiting the manger.
Christmas cards, plays and nativity scenes, commonly depict, both the shepherds and the wisemen, together, visiting the manger. This is not factual. There is no record to support it. Only the shepherds, came to the manger, when Jesus was a newly born baby.

And (the wisemen) on going into the house(not manger), they saw the child(not baby) with His mother(Mary), and they fell down and worshipped Him(Jesus) - Matthew 2:11(AMP)

The wisemen visited Jesus as a child, not as a baby and at the house, not the manger. The shepherds and the wisemen, visited Jesus at very different stages in His life.
Again, there is no record, of how many wisemen, visited Jesus. But, it has been commonly assumed, that they were three, simply because they brought three kinds of gifts. But, any number of wisemen, could have brought three kinds of gifts.

Also see 'Nativity - 2 ?

Happy Christmas
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Ok. I do hope that you realize that pretty much everyone who has done any research or actually read the bible knows this.

So…what’s your point?

 

[Auriel]

It would make all the old nativity sets obsolete and we are in a depression, who has the extra money for a new nativity set? The need for a newly designed creche would create more jobs granted, but not for Americans.

It would also take up a lot of space and could be confusing. Imagine a boatload of Wisemen, a baby Jesus, a toddler Jesus, etc etc…

Seriously though, most already know this, or so I thought. I also believe there were many wise men, but it does not change the focus or truth of his birth.

 

[dianaiad]

It would make all the old nativity sets obsolete and we are in a depression, who has the extra money for a new nativity set? The need for a newly designed creche would create more jobs granted, but not for Americans.

It would also take up a lot of space and could be confusing. Imagine a boatload of Wisemen, a baby Jesus, a toddler Jesus, etc etc…

Seriously though, most already know this, or so I thought. I also believe there were many wise men, but it does not change the focus or truth of his birth.

Y’know, every December my church has a community ‘creche festival,’ where we host and display nativity sets from all over; we have some fantastic ones that are donated for the occasion by people from all over the valley. I don’t want to think about how big a problem changing all these, literally, thousands of Nativity sets would be!

On the other hand, perhaps for next year I’ll make a 'Wise Man visit" scene for the event, where Mary and Joseph greet 9 or 10 wise men at the door of their little house, and Mary is having to play host to all these characters bearing gifts while trying to keep a curious toddler Jesus from eating the frankenscense…

 

[rev_kevin]

And while, they were there, the time came for her(Mary) delivery. And she gave birth to her son(Jesus), her firstborn; and she wrapped Him in swaddling clothes and laid Him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn(hotel) - Luke 2:6-7(AMP)

Joseph and his pregnant wife, Mary first went to the inn or hotel, before going to the manger. The manger was not their first choice. Infact, they never expected to wind up in the manger. The family had the resources, to pay for better accommodation at the inn or hotel, but there was one problem. There was no room available, even though, they had the means to pay for it.
So, contrary to popular belief, Jesus was not born in a manger, because His family was too poor or homeless. The Joseph family was not destitute. In those days, just as in these days, not everyone could afford to stay at the inn or hotel, but the parents of Jesus could. Therefore, they weren’t poverty-stricken, as commonly portrayed.

Is not this (Jesus) the carpenter’s son? - Matthew 13:55(AMP)

Joseph, the earthly father of Jesus was a carpenter by trade, a prestigious profession in those days. He was gainfully employed. He was not unemployed, homeless and penniless. And from the above scripture, we can safely conclude, that Joseph was a well known carpenter in the community.

So they(the shepherds) went with haste, and found Mary and Joseph, and the baby(Jesus) lying in the manger - Luke 2:15-16(AMP)

Only the shepherds, visited Jesus as a baby in the manger. The wise men never ever came to the manger. And the shepherds and the wisemen never ever met. There is no record, of the shepherds and the wisemen meeting nor the wisemen visiting the manger.
Christmas cards, plays and nativity scenes, commonly depict, both the shepherds and the wisemen, together, visiting the manger. This is not factual. There is no record to support it. Only the shepherds, came to the manger, when Jesus was a newly born baby.

And (the wisemen) on going into the house(not manger), they saw the child(not baby) with His mother(Mary), and they fell down and worshipped Him(Jesus) - Matthew 2:11(AMP)

The wisemen visited Jesus as a child, not as a baby and at the house, not the manger. The shepherds and the wisemen, visited Jesus at very different stages in His life.
Again, there is no record, of how many wisemen, visited Jesus. But, it has been commonly assumed, that they were three, simply because they brought three kinds of gifts. But, any number of wisemen, could have brought three kinds of gifts.

Also see 'Nativity - 2 ?

Happy Christmas
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You are correct in everything you stated. I posted on Nativity 2 with about the same thing you have said here.