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Kathleen8
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I am a product of natural family planning as well…today they have ovulation predictor tests…try those…God had another plan for you. You are very blessed.
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Nothing abnormal in what happened in a scientistic perspective. spermatozoas can live up to seven days, if they find fertile-type cervical mucus when they are released.
It probably depend on each couple.
it is also normal, and something common, than some (many?) women experienced as they get older. Cycles tend to shortened.
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F_Marturana
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I meant “spotting” not “spitting” :woman_facepalming:t2:. Sorry about that.
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DF2
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Yikes. Seven days? All the literature keeps saying “five days”, but based on my experience, I tend to think you may be right.Xantippe:
Nothing abnormal in what happened in a scientistic perspective. spermatozoas can live up to seven days, if they find fertile-type cervical mucus when they are released.
It probably depend on each couple.
My nfp instructor (who is a family physician) has said me 7 days.
Have read the same thing too.
But it must not be the generality because i have read 5 days too, as you.
I will try to find references…
here, for eg:
Sperm can survive in the female reproductive tract for an average of 2–3 days, and potentially for up to a week. Sperm survival is dependent on the secretions at the woman’s cervix
https://www.fertilityuk.org/page1
(okay, it is not a study…)
Have read the same thing too.
But it must not be the generality because i have read 5 days too, as you.
I will try to find references…
here, for eg:
Sperm can survive in the female reproductive tract for an average of 2–3 days, and potentially for up to a week. Sperm survival is dependent on the secretions at the woman’s cervix
https://www.fertilityuk.org/page1
(okay, it is not a study…)
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Agent94
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Yes, all the literature says 5 days! I’m starting to wonder just how scientifically sound all these NFP methods really are. I have just started using the Billings Method to avoid pregnancy ( I have a 14 month old and a 1 1/2 month old). My instructor says that sperm live up to 5 days and that we should abstain until the fourth day after Peak. So we have a combined 8 days of fertility (8 days of avoidance). Now this is allows for maximum security of avoiding conception. Makes me wonder though.Anicette:
Yikes. Seven days? All the literature keeps saying “five days”, but based on my experience, I tend to think you may be right.Xantippe:
Nothing abnormal in what happened in a scientistic perspective. spermatozoas can live up to seven days, if they find fertile-type cervical mucus when they are released.
It probably depend on each couple.
almost all literature… not all…
For observation of mucus, if we see/feel some mucus, we should considered it as potentially fertile. We do not take in consideration the numbers of day of sperm survival…The numbers of days abstinence is an average, when there is no particular circunstances…
This count is much more usefull as a retrospective when we evaluated the day of a conception…
It is easy to doubt… I am breastfeeding and two youngs children as you, so I doubt of myself and of method accurancy, and don’t think there is a perfect answer…
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heidi_storage
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Truth is that there isn’t a lot of high-quality research on NFP, the way methods are used varies, and effectiveness levels are highly variable.
journals.lww.com
Effectiveness of Fertility Awareness–Based Methods for... : Obstetrics & Gynecology
EMBASE, CINAHL, Web of Science, and ClinicalTrials.gov. METHODS OF STUDY SELECTION: We reviewed 8,755 unique citations and included 53 studies that contained 50 or greater women using a specific fertility awareness–based method to avoid pregnancy, calculated life table pregnancy probabilities...
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13pollitos
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You might be on to something there. My midwife would agree with you. She has many impossible babies born, including those of us who were told we could not have children and after others have been sterilized. I’m pretty sure something along these lines happened to one of my sisters. She and her husband were separated due to work. She visited him for 3 days during what should have been a safe time and she started her cycle while visiting. Normal cycle for her, lasted 8 days. She found out she was pregnant about 6 weeks later. She just kept asking how? Very happy surprise for them but completely shocked her. Strange thing about female fertility is that what is considered impossible happens all the time.
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Xantippe
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I’ve also known of one or two cases in real life where a woman miscarried and immediately (and I mean immediately) conceived the next baby.
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13pollitos
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Do you know me? Maybe it’s just that common
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Xantippe
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I can’t remember the exact calculations that made me come up with this theory, but it might have been when I was reading up on perimenopause a few years ago and suddenly realized the NFP implications of really, really short cycles combined with unusually long sperm survival.
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13pollitos
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I know that this is supposedly not possible, but I had a D&C after a miscarriage on Valentines Day. My daughter was born full term according to the Dr in October. I wonder if she was a twin and somehow kept safe during the surgery.
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Hoosier-Daddy
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I have a dear friend who is a “twin” born two months before her sister. Not really relevant but since we are talking about weird rare things…
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F_Marturana
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I wonder if you have a a partial septum? It’s a little bit of extra tissue dividing the uterus. So your twin implanted on the opposite side of the septum. They aren’t easily diagnosed. I recently learned I had one after having a CAT scan of my pelvis. I’ve had countless sonograms and it never came up.
Just a guess on my part.
Just a guess on my part.
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13pollitos
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It is a possibility. I honestly do not care what the reason, I’m just so pleased my daughter was perfect in every way.
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