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****Tim: First of all I congratulate you on a good catholic web site. My only problem is in the teaching against contraception, Unfortunately the Church, by allowing NFP has opened the door to all contraception except for that of the “pill” or like chemicals which actually cause the death of a conceived human.
As we know Onan’s crime is for wasting the seed, in other words having sex without the possibility of conception. Unfortunately NFP when practiced does the same thing. The practicing couple know that at certain times they cannot get pregnant through NFP and thus when consumating their marriage at these times they are wasting the seed as they know it is not possible to have a child.
There can be no attempt to use any possible damage to the body such as vasectomy as an excuse as we know that our body is the temple of the Lord. I cannot remember the last time any one who smoked, or drank heavily was excommunicated from the faith for smoking and heavy drinking, which we know does substantially more physical damage to the body than a vasectomy. The reason people practice NFP is to work out when it is possible to get pregnant or not. (admittedly some use it to get pregnant). The vast majority of people who practice NFP do so to avoid pregnancy either temporarily or permanently depending upon how many children they have already had etc. NFP is advocated as being at least as reliable as any other contraceptive method available. Since the advocation of NFP by the Church I can no longer see a difference in intent between NFP and non abortive types of contraception.
I would like you to explain to me considering the above why NFP is acceptable and say a condom or vasectomy is not. Thanks
In Christ, Tim****
J. Salza: Dear Tim. You raise some very good points about NFP. Unfortunately, many in the post-conciliar Church give us the impression that NFP is the norm and not the exception for healthy marriages. Nothing could be further from the truth. The popes have been clear that a married couple can defer the conception of a child only for “grave reasons.” If a couple does not have a grave reason to defer having children (e.g., a medical condition), then it is morally wrong to use NFP. This is the teaching of Casti Connubi and Humane Vitae.
The Church allows NFP for grave reasons because the married couple is cooperating with God’s design of the woman’s cycle. God made the cycle the way He did so that couples could exercise some responsibility in the rearing of children. NFP does not introduce anything artificial into the marriage. Artificial birth control deliberately intends on preventing the conception of life. NFP does not deliberately do this. It leaves the possibility of life open. There is nothing at all immoral about introducing responsibility to the process if there is a grave reason to do so, all the while welcoming God’s will for a new child if that is indeed His will.
I got the above information from
scripturecatholic.com/sexuality_qa.html#tradition-II
I am confused because I always thought NFP was a completley morally acceptable means to plan your family and kids. I completely agree with NFP and I am compleley against contraception and understand how contraception is morally wrong.
However in reading the above, it is saying it is morally wrong to use NFP to reasonably plan kids and it is only right to use NFP for “grave reasons” ???
I’m having a tough time agreeing with that statement. When using NFP you are still open to the possibility of life, how is it still morally wrong? So is it morally wrong to only hope for 3 kids vs. 7 kids?
I believe it is not wrong to hope and plan and try to have only lets say 3 kids but if you have more than 3 you should of course be open and loving and supportive of more children as that is God’s plan if you end up with more children than you hope for. How is NFP morally wrong to reasonably plan and space out your children?
Not every married couple want’s to be birthing out babies year after year. I wouldn’t want my wife to feel like her only purpose is to pop out babies either even though I would be completely open to a child everytime I have intercourse with her.
Can someone please explain this new troubling information?
As we know Onan’s crime is for wasting the seed, in other words having sex without the possibility of conception. Unfortunately NFP when practiced does the same thing. The practicing couple know that at certain times they cannot get pregnant through NFP and thus when consumating their marriage at these times they are wasting the seed as they know it is not possible to have a child.
There can be no attempt to use any possible damage to the body such as vasectomy as an excuse as we know that our body is the temple of the Lord. I cannot remember the last time any one who smoked, or drank heavily was excommunicated from the faith for smoking and heavy drinking, which we know does substantially more physical damage to the body than a vasectomy. The reason people practice NFP is to work out when it is possible to get pregnant or not. (admittedly some use it to get pregnant). The vast majority of people who practice NFP do so to avoid pregnancy either temporarily or permanently depending upon how many children they have already had etc. NFP is advocated as being at least as reliable as any other contraceptive method available. Since the advocation of NFP by the Church I can no longer see a difference in intent between NFP and non abortive types of contraception.
I would like you to explain to me considering the above why NFP is acceptable and say a condom or vasectomy is not. Thanks
In Christ, Tim****
J. Salza: Dear Tim. You raise some very good points about NFP. Unfortunately, many in the post-conciliar Church give us the impression that NFP is the norm and not the exception for healthy marriages. Nothing could be further from the truth. The popes have been clear that a married couple can defer the conception of a child only for “grave reasons.” If a couple does not have a grave reason to defer having children (e.g., a medical condition), then it is morally wrong to use NFP. This is the teaching of Casti Connubi and Humane Vitae.
The Church allows NFP for grave reasons because the married couple is cooperating with God’s design of the woman’s cycle. God made the cycle the way He did so that couples could exercise some responsibility in the rearing of children. NFP does not introduce anything artificial into the marriage. Artificial birth control deliberately intends on preventing the conception of life. NFP does not deliberately do this. It leaves the possibility of life open. There is nothing at all immoral about introducing responsibility to the process if there is a grave reason to do so, all the while welcoming God’s will for a new child if that is indeed His will.
I got the above information from
scripturecatholic.com/sexuality_qa.html#tradition-II
I am confused because I always thought NFP was a completley morally acceptable means to plan your family and kids. I completely agree with NFP and I am compleley against contraception and understand how contraception is morally wrong.
However in reading the above, it is saying it is morally wrong to use NFP to reasonably plan kids and it is only right to use NFP for “grave reasons” ???
I’m having a tough time agreeing with that statement. When using NFP you are still open to the possibility of life, how is it still morally wrong? So is it morally wrong to only hope for 3 kids vs. 7 kids?
I believe it is not wrong to hope and plan and try to have only lets say 3 kids but if you have more than 3 you should of course be open and loving and supportive of more children as that is God’s plan if you end up with more children than you hope for. How is NFP morally wrong to reasonably plan and space out your children?
Not every married couple want’s to be birthing out babies year after year. I wouldn’t want my wife to feel like her only purpose is to pop out babies either even though I would be completely open to a child everytime I have intercourse with her.
Can someone please explain this new troubling information?