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I did a search here for Naval Academy and it appears that at least a few of you have had some experience in this area. My son will be a junior this year and aspires to attend the Academy. He’s a straight A student and a good (not outstanding) athelete. Everything I hear about getting in is that it is REALLY tough. I just wondered if that is true (I suspect it is) and what types of things would you recommend he do in order to make the top cut. We live in a very small town…this seems like a wild dream sometimes…but I want to fully support him in ths and help him if I can.

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Kathy
 
Their website:

www.usna.edu

A friend of mine graduated from Annapolis. According to him, “It’s a great place to be from, but not such a great place to be.” He admits that he got a great education. However, he also says that “I got a “free” million dollar education…shoved up my (insert name of bodily orifice here) one nickle at a time.” In the end,he graduated and went on to have a great career in the Marine Corps.

Just make sure your son is fully aware of the commitment he is making. The USNA is only for the strong and motivated.

Best of luck.
 
Kathy,
Since appointments to the service academies come from Senators and Congressmen/women, have your son contact yours now and ask how they allocate appointments. Stay in contact.

I believe the process starts in spring of junior year so you are right to get started now.
 
Have him build a portfolio of accomplishments. This is very important and will be needed.
 
Make sure he is well-rounded. Not just great academics, but sports (even just intramural or YMCA type stuff) and community service. My daughter is an altar server… perhaps your son could pursue that. Or I am sure there are myriad other opportunities for service through your parish.

And make sure he knows that he will be getting tough treatment at the academy. He needs to be ready to have his will broken and then rebuild it in Navy fashion. This is part of making them a “corps” instead of a mass of individuals.
 
Have him build a portfolio of accomplishments. This is very important and will be needed.
Thanks, everyone, for your replies. Buffalo, what do you mean by this exactly? I’m guessing you mean pursue leadership positions…right? How about community/church service? Are those things important? Well, I know they are important, but are they considered in the overall scheme of things? I’m a little concerned because we do have limited opportunities in a small town, but I’m sure it’s not impossible.

Kathy
 
Thanks, everyone, for your replies. Buffalo, what do you mean by this exactly? I’m guessing you mean pursue leadership positions…right? How about community/church service? Are those things important? Well, I know they are important, but are they considered in the overall scheme of things? I’m a little concerned because we do have limited opportunities in a small town, but I’m sure it’s not impossible.

Kathy
Make a binder and put in awards, certificates, leadership items, community /church service, successes in general.

Include all accomplishments.

When the Congessperson reviews the applicants this type of thing can make the difference. He will then be also well prepared for the interview.

Each Congressperson can only refer so many each year.
 
And make sure he knows that he will be getting tough treatment at the academy. He needs to be ready to have his will broken and then rebuild it in Navy fashion. This is part of making them a “corps” instead of a mass of individuals.
I think he is prepared for this and honestly, although he is a reallly great kid, he could use having his will broken a bit. 😉 Having it rebuilt in Navy fashion?? Is this what I want to support as a Catholic parent? The NA website talked about how important faith is to a military career, so I presume they won’t be training him to go against what we have tried to teach him. Am I right on this?

Kathy
 
I think he is prepared for this and honestly, although he is a reallly great kid, he could use having his will broken a bit. 😉 Having it rebuilt in Navy fashion?? Is this what I want to support as a Catholic parent? The NA website talked about how important faith is to a military career, so I presume they won’t be training him to go against what we have tried to teach him. Am I right on this?

Kathy
The academies advocate strong religious character.

Navy fashion - break you down and build you up. They want people who will follow orders faithfully and without question. If your son shows an independent streak he may have trouble with this and opt out. It is an important consideration.

He must also consider deployment strategies they now use. Will he be willing to be away from family for 6 months at a time? Being single is quite different from being married.
 
Dear Kathy,

I’m very familiar with the process, so I hope this helps 🙂

I just graduated high school this year, and in the Fall I am attending UC Berkeley on the Navy ROTC scholarship. I’m not sure how familiar you are with this sort of thing, but essentially it’s a full tuition scholarship with the same obligations as the USNA afterward. Basically the Naval Academy at a four-year university, though obviously much less “militant” college experience.

However, I entertained the idea of attending the USNA for much of my junior year. Let me tell you right now, this is the most important year for him if he wants to attend the Academy. At the end of their junior year, high school students have a chance to attend the Naval Academy Summer Seminar, or USNASS. Basically you go to the academy for a week in the summer and live like a midshipman. If he’s interested in attending the academy, it’s vital that he apply for this program, if I remember right applications start sometime in February or April. Here’s the program website:

usna.edu/Admissions/nass.htm

If he can get into that, there’s a relatively good chance that he will get into the Academy if he goes through with it. I actually attended the Summer Seminar in summer following my junior year, and let me tell you- it’s a BLAST. It will definitely tell you if you’re cut out for military life. You either love the physical and mental challenge or you don’t.

Now, as far as grades go. I was an A and B student in high school, and I got into the USNASS. Now, my classes were all AP and IB, so if possible get him to enroll in the challenging courses, especially math and science. The Academy is fine with a B so long as it’s in a difficult class. The admissions board really looks at how much each candidate challenges himself both in and out of school.

DEFINITELY keep him in sports. The USNASS is extremely physically strenuous, and they administer several physical tests which DO affect the admissions decision, so you’ll want him to be in excellent shape.

The “real” application process begins the summer before your senior year, if you’re smart. Procrastinating is not a good idea if he really wants to get in. It’s a very long and difficult process, because not only do you have to get into the Academy, you have to convince a Congressman to select you as one of his 5 academy nominees. And that’s 5 at a TIME, not 5 per year. Additionally, you’ll have to get a DoDMERB physical and go through all sorts of military paperwork.

Also, encourage him to apply to other schools and NROTC. Even if he doesn’t plan to do NROTC if he doesn’t get into the academy, the USNA likes to see that he has backup plans and is determined to get a commission one way or another.

Also, get in touch with your blue and gold officer as soon as possible. These guys have quite a bit of weight in an admissions decision.

I personally didn’t end up applying for the academy, because that summer I began discerning a vocation to the priesthood, and NROTC gives me far more room to explore that possibility in college. But your son will be in my prayers! God bless you for helping him so!

And feel free to PM me with any questions.

PS- and the Naval Academy chapel is BEAUTIFUL! At the Summer Seminar I had the opportunity to attend Mass there, and it was a stunning experience. Stained glass, real pipe organ… probably the most beautiful building on an already beautiful campus.
 
Well, let’s be brutally honest here. The military’s job is to kill people and break things. They take command from their political leadership and project force in the service of the interests of the nation they serve. Does that violate your moral code?

The Catholic Church teaches that some wars are just. We can debate over which war is just and which is not. One of the codes in the UCMJ makes it illegal for a member of the military to follow an illegal order. So there is both acknowledgement that immoral things could happen, and not only protection, but the expectation that people will refuse to go along with them.

Serving in the military does not violate the Catholic conscience. The Air Force is majority Catholic… I do not know about the Navy, but I would suspect similar numbers. Many priests dedicate their lives to serving fighting men and women as chaplains. If it were immoral or against Catholic teaching to be in the service, do you think they would do that? Do you think the Church would allow them to?

Navy values are ones you want your kid learning… trust me. My dad was Navy intelligence in the 70s. He went on to continue serving the community as a police officer for over 25 years. His foundation in the Navy set him up to be a responsible, functional member of society and taught him the discipline to follow through even when it was hard.
 
Wow, I’m just blown away by your responses. Thank you. Please do keep my son in your prayers!

Kathy
 
I will… and part of the reason I am so gung-ho on it is that I can totally see one of my kids going to a military academy. They are very smart and have a long military history in both families. Their dad and one of their grandpas were both Air Force officers, and their dad is currently in the process of entering the Army Nat’l Guard as a Captain (the rank he left the AF with). My DH got his commission through ROTC. My kids also have many enlisted forbears, so I could see one of them taking that path, as well.

My husband really believes that serving in the military is fulfilling the Bible verse about having no greater love than being willing to lay down one’s life. He believes in this country and its greatness. He believes it and its people are worth risking his life to defend. And his Catholic faith is an integral part of his dedication to the military. He has been off active duty for five years, and he really misses it. That is why he is joining the Guard. This has been coming for over a year. He started talking about it… it came up every couple of months… and now he is doing it. And I will be a warrior wife again.

Not easy, but a proud burden and my obligation to supporting the best in the man I married.
 
The information from OnlyAmbrose, the young poster who considered the USNA, is terrific.

The son of our dearest friends graduated in 2006 from the Naval Academy. He started planning early in his high school career, was accepted to the USNASS (summer session) where he won the top award, was a top student at his Catholic high school (named “Ideal Male Graduate” and in the top few students in his class.) He was a cross-country athlete, active in the pro-life club and several others, was incredibly well rounded, and a very normal, outgoing, delightful young man. He finished near the top of his USNA class and is now training as a Marine helicopter pilot; he has always been one to choose the most difficult path and excel.

Best wishes to your son.
 
My brother graduated from USAFA. I know not everything is the same among academies, but for him, getting Eagle Scout was one of the best things on his resume. He was a good student, average athlete. Mainly he was consistent and involved. He ended up with 2 appointments (one from our Congressman, one from the Senator, only 1 was official at the end of the day). Also, he wanted to be a pilot since age 3. I think his enthusiasm shined through the interviews. He’s now flying C-17s.
 
As an academy graduate and former active duty officer, I can vouch for the excellent education and leadership training.

I truly admire those who have sacrificed to protect our way of life.

Unfortunately, while the defense of our country is a noble aspiration, I would recommend a career path that follows Jesus’ example of love and sacrifice for others, without the killing!

All too often, our corrupt politicians destroy the efforts of our loyal troops.

Don’t let the Academy’s Cathedral influence you, there are many, far more beautiful Cathedrals in Rome.

I assume if you are on the CAF you are a Catholic and therefore, despite the “just war doctrine” would prefer to have your son involved in a calling that does not involve killing other human beings, no matter what the justification.

Don’t let the prestige, or the free education draw you in.

We only have one life, and I believe that we are called to share the “good News” of Jesus’ gospel. Do everything you can to convince your son to serve others in love and peace.

If he is truly called to the military, there is a great need for Catholic chaplains to serve our courageous troops.

Pray that he would answer the call to serve the Lord, not the military.

You are in my prayers!

Mark
 
A few of our friends here on base are USNA grads, and I can tell you that you will find more than a couple at daily Mass.
I would most certainly want my son to go to the Academy when the time comes.
Mark is absolutely right about the painful lack of priests in the military, so maybe that could be thrown in as a option for your son to consider if he has not already determined a vocation to marriage.
 
A few of our friends here on base are USNA grads, and I can tell you that you will find more than a couple at daily Mass.
I would most certainly want my son to go to the Academy when the time comes.
Mark is absolutely right about the painful lack of priests in the military, so maybe that could be thrown in as a option for your son to consider if he has not already determined a vocation to marriage.
Indeed, and I actually got in touch with the chaplain at the Naval Academy about a year ago. He said that at the end of this past school year they tried something revolutionary with one of their students; after he graduated from the Academy, he was allowed to enter the seminary to become a Navy chaplain. He said that it’s an experimental case, and its success would dictate if this is possible in the future. Who knows? By the time your son can attend the academy maybe it will be possible. 🙂

Becoming a chaplain is one of the options I’m considering, depending on what my NROTC officer says. It’s certainly something to consider.
 
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