Nazi Catholics...!

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Well I was trying to do a search to see if there was any information about the Tridentine Mass in Welsh - and somehow I came across the Stormfront website. I know what it’s about - and I don’t visit it. :mad: But I saw it mentioning the Tridentine Mass, and someone “doubting” his catholic faith. Of course he had a stupid clay Hitler Nazi avatar - oh and the first person to reply apparently made reference to the Book of Job to help him keep his faith! This guy had a Nazi logo at the bottom of his posts!!!

They even have a sub forum (from what I can tell) for Christian/Catholic/Anglican apologetics. :mad: I feel like telling them about St. Maximilian Kolbe, and St. Edith Stein!!!

The URL in question is as follows www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/starting-doubt-my-catholic-faith-384719.html

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Catholig said:
Well I was trying to do a search to see if there was any information about the Tridentine Mass in Welsh - and somehow I came across the Stormfront website. I know what it’s about - and I don’t visit it. :mad: But I saw it mentioning the Tridentine Mass, and someone “doubting” his catholic faith. Of course he had a stupid clay Hitler Nazi avatar - oh and the first person to reply apparently made reference to the Book of Job to help him keep his faith! This guy had a Nazi logo at the bottom of his posts!!!

They even have a sub forum (from what I can tell) for Christian/Catholic/Anglican apologetics. :mad: I feel like telling them about St. Maximilian Kolbe, and St. Edith Stein!!!

Catholig
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I take it most of stormfront’s members are in the north Americas; if this is the case their affiliation with Nazism is hilarious. Don’t they realise how “polluted” the American gene pool is? Do they even understand that if the Nazis had captured the US during the war that the population would have been treated like any other “inferior” race? I sincerely doubt that stormfront’s members come from pure Arian ancestry They’re a joke!
 
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I take it most of stormfront’s members are in the north Americas; if this is the case their affiliation with Nazism is hilarious. Don’t they realise how “polluted” the American gene pool is? Do they even understand that if the Nazis had captured the US during the war that the population would have been treated like any other “inferior” race? I sincerely doubt that stormfront’s members come from pure Arian ancestry They’re a joke!
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I think having Neo-Nazis is bad enough - but Neo-Nazis that claim to be “Catholic” is horrible. Millions of catholic poles were murdered. Catholics of Jewish back ground to. The nazis persecuted the Church. And Pius XII even urged the italian population to help the Jewish people. They’re undercutting catholicism - and I really want to post on their so called “apologetics forum” but I doubt that it’ll do much good, and to tell the Truth I’m a bit scared too. I don’t want them to have my information. I don’t want to have that website on my recently visited pages. Or to have cookies from that site.

Catholig
 
Nazi theory has nothing to do with Catholicism, it’s a mix of german anti-enlightenment romanticism and european postmodernism.

Yet most people don’t look at the beginnings and ends of things it seems.
 
Stormfront is monitored by FBI, NAACP, ADL, SPLC and any organization having a concern with civil rights. :nope: They are downright wacky, and have no credibility among normal people. Not to worry. 🤷
 
My guess is that their claim to being Catholic is bogus and part of the Catholic-bashing always a part of Nazism, new or old.

Perhaps you could report the website to the police or FBI.
 
The Catholics of Europe were silent until too late-- too few had the courage to fight it. I think we need to remember from that lesson.

Again I suggest that the K of C needs to diversify their interests beyond anti-abortion, Special Olympics, beer, and bingo, and become the Knights of las Casas. Too strong of an organization to stay in 1882. But what do I know, a mere woman. :rolleyes:

Yes, they are imitation Catholics. Of course, many followed Fr. Coughlin. :confused:
 
Jerusha said:
The Catholics of Europe were silent until too late-- too few had the courage to fight it. I think we need to remember from that lesson.
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From what I understand Vatican Radio was one of the first new organizations to report that jews were being rounded up - and I’m pretty sure that many Catholics helped Jews. To make such a blanket statement is just wrong.
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Again I suggest that the K of C needs to diversify their interests beyond anti-abortion, Special Olympics, beer, and bingo, and become the Knights of las Casas. Too strong of an organization to stay in 1882. But what do I know, a mere woman. :rolleyes:
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What do you suggest the K of C do?
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Yes, they are imitation Catholics. Of course, many followed Fr. Coughlin. :confused:
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While, from what I know, Coughlin was anti-semitic I don’t think he supported Hitler or called for Jews to be murdered. I also don’t think he was racist against the polish people or would killed Nuns of Jewish origin. He was obedient to the pope though and stopped his rants when told too.

Catholig
 
Being a mere woman i have to say that you are wrong about the K of C, Those things that you mentioned are national projects (they don’t have bingo here!) .they do lots of good out of the sight of the public eye and without fanfare-like St.vincent de paul society. The local Kof c is very young here but already has donated money to foodbanks,raised money to provide police and ambulances teddy bears to hand to kids who’ve been traumatized-taken Christmas and go frequently to local orphanage. Bought wheelchairs for people in need etc. Catholics a were no more “guilty” then anybody else or more “innocent” either. Ever. Governments who could have stopped Hitler a t the beginning body failed to stop him. the germans sick of the maltreatment that they incurred as the result of the treaty of versailles handed there lives and freedoms over to the maniac just so they could survive and prosper(at the cost of others) the list could go on and on,. Picking on non catholics is foolish also . The christian universe has much to answer for as regards the Jewish people. but I think the catholics are the only ones who apologized thru JPII.
 
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Jerusha:
The Catholics of Europe were silent until too late-- too few had the courage to fight it. I think we need to remember from that lesson.
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Pope Pius XII was speaking out strongly against Naziism long before WW2 and all through W22. He spoke frequently on radio and published a ream of newspaper articles denouncing Naziism.

He sheltered 4000 Jews in the Vatican houses, produced travelling papers for them at the Vatican press, in all rescued 850 000 Jews.

After the War, the Chief Rabbi of Rome was so overwhelmed by the generosity and courage of the Catholic efforts to save the Jews that he converted to Catholicism. The Yad Veshem proclaimed Pius XII a Righteous Gentile. Golda Meir publicly thanked him for his efforts.

Pius XII and the Holocaust

The Record of Pius XII’s Opposition to Hitler

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1917-29: During his years as Nuncio to Germany… Pacelli began the Church’s opposition… against the Nazis. After assuming the Chair of Peter as Pius XII in 1939, his became the world’s single most important moral voice speaking against Hitler…
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**1925: **…A few Nazis claim that the long-term threat of the Church makes it their most dangerous enemy.
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**1928: **“Moved by Christian charity, the Holy See is obligated to protect the Jewish people against unjust vexations and… it particularly condemns unreservedly hatred against the people once chosen by God”…
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1930: …L’Osservatore Romano… runs a series of articles from the office of Cardinal Secretary of State severely criticizing Nazism: “Belonging to the National Socialist Party of Hitler is irreconcilable with the Catholic Conscience”…
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**1935: **Lourdes, France, at a Eucharistic Triduum Cardinal Pacelli tells an estimated 325,000 pilgrims, including many Germans, that “the Church will never come to terms with Nazis as long as they persist in their racial philosophy”…
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1937: Cardinal Pacelli drafts the encyclical Mit brennender Sorge, issued in March by Pope Pius XI. It condemns Nazi racism and worship of the state in the Church’s most authoritative form of teaching. It infuriates the Nazis, who respond with more persecution of Catholics…
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**1939: **Cardinal Pacelli… ask[s archbishops] to persuade their governments to throw open their doors to the hundreds of thousands of Jews… [and] exiled Jewish professors and scientists.
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Pius XII issues his first encyclical, Summi Pontificatus…
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The New York Times sums it up in a headline, “Pope Condemns Dictators, Treaty Violators, Racism: Urges Restoring of Poland”…
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1940: New York Times headline reads: “Vatican Denounces Atrocities in Poland; Germans Called Even Worse Than Russians”… Manchester Guardian says “Tortured Poland has found a powerful advocate in Rome”
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And so on.

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Jerusha:
Again I suggest that the K of C needs to diversify their interests beyond anti-abortion, Special Olympics, beer, and bingo, and become the Knights of las Casas. Too strong of an organization to stay in 1882. But what do I know, a mere woman. :rolleyes:
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What do you know about the Knights of Columbus and their activities? Do you think you know enough about what the Catholic Church does to even comment? I don’t.
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Jerusha:
Yes, they are imitation Catholics. Of course, many followed Fr. Coughlin. :confused:
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Imitation Catholics? What are you talking about? Are you even commenting on the OP or just vocalizing your own beef with the Church? And would this Fr Coughlin be the same one who was disciplined by the Vatican? What exactly is your point?

🤷 I think you owe us an apology.
 
coughlin was really not that influential he was just dust in the wind and was swept away disgraced.And I don’t know if the rank and file christians did enough but did anybody really?
 
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coughlin was really not that influential he was just dust in the wind and was swept away disgraced.And I don’t know if the rank and file christians did enough but did anybody really?
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Where have you been? Are you reading anybody else’s posts are just posting your own pov? I just made three posts on this thread about what was done for Jews by Catholics during WW2. There are links there for the rest.
 
I still feel that it would be beneficial to correct these people - I’m just not sure if I want to go to their stupid apologetics forum on my own. 😦

Catholig
 
I think that the very notion of a “Catholic” being a neo-nazi, national socialist, white pride member is a bit oxymoron-ish… In fact, if my memory serves me correct…those groups like the Klan have a tendency of violence toward Catholics…

I see no way for a Catholic to espouse to those political stances.
 
cool your jets man-Get a grip no need to get cranky i hate to tell you that everybody posts pov.yeah i did read it again i say was enough done by rank and file man on the street catholics?I don’t know about you but when i’ve seen something wrong I’ve often wondered could I have done more?Did I do what Jesus asks of me?Did I go as far as I know HE would have done.Christ asks for more and expects us to go out of our comfort zone.If we all exercised our Christianity as Jesus wanted us to do would so much evil exist? Wouldn’t the .world be a better place?
 
juliamajor said:
cool your jets man-Get a grip no need to get cranky i hate to tell you that everybody posts pov.yeah i did read it again i say was enough done by rank and file man on the street catholics?I don’t know about you but when i’ve seen something wrong I’ve often wondered could I have done more?Did I do what Jesus asks of me?Did I go as far as I know HE would have done.Christ asks for more and expects us to go out of our comfort zone.If we all exercised our Christianity as Jesus wanted us to do would so much evil exist? Wouldn’t the .world be a better place?
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I’m not saying that I’m perfect or anything - I simply think that it sad that there would be so called catholics whose POV is that Hitler was right in murdering saints, catholic, and jews, and in persecuting the Church. I also feel that instead of making excuses we should practice spiritual works of mercy and admonish the sinner.

Catholig
 
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