NDE and spiritual realm

[Memaw]

I tend to agree with this especially given the powerful drugs given in these incidents. My mother in the hospital was talking with a bear she told us had come to visit her while she was on morphine after surgery long ago. My mother said it was the most real experience she had ever had when in fact it was simply a drug effect.

Mary.

My first husband died, ( suddenly), and several years later I remarried. Even though I was very fond of my second husband and he was so good to me and my children, I had a guilty feeling I was betraying my first husband. I never told my second husband this. Then I started having dreams, Had several that my first husband came back, I saw him coming up the walk,( in my dream) and I shooed my second husband out the other door. He always left willingly. I knew they were just dreams but they bothered me very much. They seemed soooo real.God Bless. Memaw

 

[Bradski]

Brain needs oxygen for functioning. Therefore the lack of oxygen leads to lack of experience. Instead these people have very rich sort of experiences.

During recovery (from hypoxia), psychological and neurological abnormalities such as amnesia, personality regression, hallucinations…my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/cerebral-hypoxia

Moderate hypoxia can induce auditory and visual hallucinations, as well as arousing auditory and visual memories (Brugger 1999). anesthesiaweb.org/hypoxia.php

Plus many instances of mountain climbers reporting identical sensations as your NDE-ers: anesthesiaweb.org/images/hypoxia/Brugger-1999.pdf

 

[STT]

During recovery (from hypoxia), psychological and neurological abnormalities such as amnesia, personality regression, hallucinations…my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/cerebral-hypoxia

Moderate hypoxia can induce auditory and visual hallucinations, as well as arousing auditory and visual memories (Brugger 1999). anesthesiaweb.org/hypoxia.php

Plus many instances of mountain climbers reporting identical sensations as your NDE-ers: anesthesiaweb.org/images/hypoxia/Brugger-1999.pdf

I know all this. My question is that why these people have specific form of experience? Why the hallucination is not a noise?

 

[Autumn_Smoke]

While we have to be careful about NDE’s, and we certainly shouldn’t build our theology around them, we cannot dismiss them as being solely the result of drug-induced hallucination nor oxygen deprivation. Yes, that can happen…

That is why I find the study of Shared Death Experiences to be so interesting, because a healthy individual who is not experiencing drug hallucinations, nor who is oxygen deprived, is with a dying person, experiencing the same things which are reported in NDE’s.

From the book “Glimpses of Eternity – An Investigation into Shared Death Experiences” by Raymond Moody:

It is possible for a skeptic to easily write off a dying person’s death experience . But a death experience shared with a number of people at the bedside is more difficult to pass off as individual fantasy. Shared death experiences are like near death experiences, only they take place in a person who is not ill. They usually happen to a person or persons who are sitting at a deathbed and they take place when the sick person is close to death or has just died. They can happen to one or more people.

As one interviewee said in the book:

“Look at me” he said, “I did not die, yet I had a near-death experience. That stuff you said about the dying brain hypothesis can’t be true because—look at me—it happened to me and I am alive.”

So if a “dying” person later speaks about having a life review, encountering deceased relatives and/or a divine being, seeing a bright light, going through a tunnel into another dimension…yes, we can dismiss all that—even though thousands of people from completely different backgrounds have all reported the same things…but when a healthy living person experiences the same things simultaneously as they sit beside a newly deceased person, how can that be explained?

IMHO, we are getting a glimpse of the spiritual realm.

The book is very interesting and I’d recommend it. There are absolutely no stories which are contrary to our faith. In fact the author greatly believes in Jesus and in God, and says he talks to God all day long.