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I have “died” three times since August 2010 ~ no heart beat, pulse, breath ~ and was revived mechanically each time. The first time, I DID go to heaven, but the other two times I did not.

I did not go through a tunnel, but was just engulfed in the most pure and white light one can ever imagine. I felt overwhelming love, peace and joy. I did not see God, but I heard Him tell me that it was not my time because He still has work for me to do, and that I must go back. Then I saw my deceased husband, and he said, “Honey, it’s not your time, you have to go back, but I’ll be here waiting for you.” After that, I was in a coma for two weeks until my brother-in-law prayed over me, and suddenly, I awoke and was fully alert and able to talk.

After waking, I felt an indescribable need to tell everyone about my experience because GOD AND HEAVEN ARE REAL! His love is endless. His grace and mercy are all forgiving. I cannot wait to go back! It is NOT a dream or a hallucination. You are really there! Usually when people say they had a dream, they say that it “felt so real.” When you have a NDE, you KNOW that it was real. The reason why they call it a NDE is because for all practical purposes, you are not alive for a period of time, but come back to life suddenly.

I created a video to help spread the word to anyone who does not believe in God or Heaven so that perhaps they can wrap their minds around the fact that our bodies are nothing but a shell. In the Holy Father’s eyes we ARE the Holy Spirit that He gave us. Each person has their own NDE based upon their own spirital life, not to be interpreted by other humans ~ other than having the faith that each person will be held accountable by God in his or her own way and time.

If you are interested in viewing my video, here is the link:

youtube.com/watch?v=DV_IeRlIWVU

There are also many other videos about NDEs by people young and old who tell of their NDE. Some talk about Heaven, and some talk about Hell. Of those who go to Heaven or Hell and return, almost all say that the experience changed their lives forever, and now lead a righteous and Christian life, and spread the word to anyone and everyone they come in contact with.

I hope this helps you understand that science cannot prove spirituality; however, many doctors report that they have witnessed miracles of healing when no medicinal practice or procedure could have saved the patient.

Believe in God’s power over all things ~ those we can see and understand, and those we cannot. We will only have the answers we seek when we are reunited with God, our Father, once again.

May God bless you in all you do and say from now until eternity, in the name of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior! :amen:
 
amoremseram said:
Mainstream scientists offer many natural explanations for NDEs such as natural chemicals in the brain, the effect of anesthesia, oxygen deprivation, etc. etc. etc. There are also parts of the brain (particularly the Sylvian fissure) that when electrically stimulated produce similar experiences in the subject (a feeling of being out of the body etc. etc.). There are drugs such as DMT that also produce similar sensations. Pilots who are placed in centrifuges who pass out from excessive g-forces sometimes also report similar sensations (being out of the body, etc.). Although I think not all NDE experiences (such as the “life review”) have been simulated, the mainstream scientific community concludes that NDEs are merely hallucinations of some sort.

However, even assuming that scientists can duplicate the effects of NDEs, it would not explain some aspects of NDEs, such as:
  • blind people who have NDEs often report being able to see during the NDE (even some who are blind from birth, who have no previous concept of vision), and in some cases what they see is corroborated by evidence. The Mindsight book I mentioned discusses this.
  • it is rare, but there are such things as “group NDEs” where one person sees another person having an NDE. If I were hallucinating, how come another person can see my “hallucination”? And in the case of simultaneous group NDEs, how come we can see each other’s hallucinations?
  • people who report being out of their body are able to make observations not observable from the patient’s body (and/or medical condition), which observations are later verified or confirmed.
These phenomena, if true, would mean that at least some NDEs are not hallucinations. The only question is whether you think all of the people who talk about these phenomena are lying or are crazy.
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FYI, scientists have never recreated an NDE, the closest they’ve got is the out of body experience, but even then its nowhere even close to the level that my mother and many others have experienced, My mother swears 1000% this was no dream, like I’ve written in my previous posts she was more alive and alert then she is now on Earth, and its something you simply cannot recreate in a science lab!
 
kmcarl56 said:
I have “died” three times since August 2010 ~ no heart beat, pulse, breath ~ and was revived mechanically each time. The first time, I DID go to heaven, but the other two times I did not.

I did not go through a tunnel, but was just engulfed in the most pure and white light one can ever imagine. I felt overwhelming love, peace and joy. I did not see God, but I heard Him tell me that it was not my time because He still has work for me to do, and that I must go back. Then I saw my deceased husband, and he said, “Honey, it’s not your time, you have to go back, but I’ll be here waiting for you.” After that, I was in a coma for two weeks until my brother-in-law prayed over me, and suddenly, I awoke and was fully alert and able to talk.

After waking, I felt an indescribable need to tell everyone about my experience because GOD AND HEAVEN ARE REAL! His love is endless. His grace and mercy are all forgiving. I cannot wait to go back! It is NOT a dream or a hallucination. You are really there! Usually when people say they had a dream, they say that it “felt so real.” When you have a NDE, you KNOW that it was real. The reason why they call it a NDE is because for all practical purposes, you are not alive for a period of time, but come back to life suddenly.

I created a video to help spread the word to anyone who does not believe in God or Heaven so that perhaps they can wrap their minds around the fact that our bodies are nothing but a shell. In the Holy Father’s eyes we ARE the Holy Spirit that He gave us. Each person has their own NDE based upon their own spirital life, not to be interpreted by other humans ~ other than having the faith that each person will be held accountable by God in his or her own way and time.

If you are interested in viewing my video, here is the link:

youtube.com/watch?v=DV_IeRlIWVU

There are also many other videos about NDEs by people young and old who tell of their NDE. Some talk about Heaven, and some talk about Hell. Of those who go to Heaven or Hell and return, almost all say that the experience changed their lives forever, and now lead a righteous and Christian life, and spread the word to anyone and everyone they come in contact with.

I hope this helps you understand that science cannot prove spirituality; however, many doctors report that they have witnessed miracles of healing when no medicinal practice or procedure could have saved the patient.

Believe in God’s power over all things ~ those we can see and understand, and those we cannot. We will only have the answers we seek when we are reunited with God, our Father, once again.

May God bless you in all you do and say from now until eternity, in the name of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior! :amen:
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I would like to ask you few things.
  1. If someone born in a Muslim or Hindu or Buddhist environment and they are good people helping other all the time can still can go to heaven or they must change their religion and follow the Christ way?
  2. You talk about hell, have you seen it in your NDE?
    Thanks if can answer me.
 
If NDEs are valid visions of what happens beyond death, how come everyone who “dies”, and I use that term loosely, and is mechanically resuscitated doesn’t have them?

I very nearly drowned a few years ago. Heart stopped beating, no breathing, etc. I was very very lucky in that a guy that was with us was a paramedic and was able to resuscitate me. The circumstances were much like what other people experience when they have NDEs. I, however, did not experience anything. My theory is that it was because I was knocked unconscious before I actually started drowning properly. If NDEs are valid spiritual experiences, surely consciousness at the time of pulse death shouldn’t matter? If, however, NDEs are just a production of neuron activity in a dying brain, similar to dreaming, we would expect a completely unconscious person not to experience one.

Just my two cents. I don’t think it really matters, as NDEs sound like intensely personal experiences like someone else said and not generalizeable to everyone else…
 
Aaron780 said:
FYI, scientists have never recreated an NDE, the closest they’ve got is the out of body experience, but even then its nowhere even close to the level that my mother and many others have experienced, My mother swears 1000% this was no dream, like I’ve written in my previous posts she was more alive and alert then she is now on Earth, and its something you simply cannot recreate in a science lab!
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I am in total agreement with you my friend. Scientists can recreate parts of an NDE such as the feeling of being in a tunnel, the feeling of being outside of the body, etc. But I believe you are right, they have not recreated an entire NDE. So I don’t agree with science, but I was just trying to be fair by giving the perspective offered by science.

Yes you are right people who have NDEs often say that the NDE is more real than real. It is so real that in comparison, the reality we are aware of feels like a dream. I believe this is one distinguishing characteristic between a true NDE and a simulated NDE or a hallucination. When I have a dream and then I wake up, I recognize that my dream was just a dream. When an NDEr has an NDE then comes back to life, they feel that the NDE was more real and life is more like a dream in comparison to the NDE.
 
Gullveig said:
If NDEs are valid visions of what happens beyond death, how come everyone who “dies”, and I use that term loosely, and is mechanically resuscitated doesn’t have them?
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Yes you’re right not everyone who ‘dies’ and comes back says they had an NDE. According to the book Consciousness Beyond Life by Pim van Lommel, MD, there is a study conducted in the Netherlands published in the journal The Lancet in December 2001, where out of 344 patients who were revived from clinical death, they found 62 people said they had an NDE (18%), and 282 said they had no memory while they were unconscious.

I don’t know why not everyone has an NDE. I think people just forget. For example, some people will say that they did not have a dream, but in actual fact, everyone has dreams, but not everyone remembers them.
 
amoremseram said:
Yes you’re right not everyone who ‘dies’ and comes back says they had an NDE. According to the book Consciousness Beyond Life by Pim van Lommel, MD, there is a study conducted in the Netherlands published in the journal The Lancet in December 2001, where out of 344 patients who were revived from clinical death, they found 62 people said they had an NDE (18%), and 282 said they had no memory while they were unconscious.

I don’t know why not everyone has an NDE. I think people just forget. For example, some people will say that they did not have a dream, but in actual fact, everyone has dreams, but not everyone remembers them.
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Not only does not everyone experience NDEs, of those who experience them not everyone gets the full monty, so to speak, i.e. not everyone sees a light, a tunnel, dead relatives, girls in peasant blouses, etc… See this article for an overview of the subject.
 
amoremseram said:
Yes you’re right not everyone who ‘dies’ and comes back says they had an NDE. According to the book Consciousness Beyond Life by Pim van Lommel, MD, there is a study conducted in the Netherlands published in the journal The Lancet in December 2001, where out of 344 patients who were revived from clinical death, they found 62 people said they had an NDE (18%), and 282 said they had no memory while they were unconscious.

I don’t know why not everyone has an NDE. I think people just forget. For example, some people will say that they did not have a dream, but in actual fact, everyone has dreams, but not everyone remembers them.
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It may also be that is NOT time for them to know or to experience things like heaven so God will not allow them to see or experience and this has nothing to do with remember but as you say everything is possible.
 
cornbread_r2 said:
Not only does not everyone experience NDEs, of those who experience them not everyone gets the full monty, so to speak, i.e. not everyone sees a light, a tunnel, dead relatives, girls in peasant blouses, etc… See this article for an overview of the subject.
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Thanks for forwarding that article. I’m interested in this topic, including the point of view of skeptics such as the website you forwarded.

Yes you are right, all NDEs are unique and not all have the same elements. In near death studies, there is such a thing called “Weighted Core Experience Index” that seeks to classify NDEs based on the elements observed during an NDE.
 
Earlier, there was a link to an article that appeared on Esquire that purportedly debunked Dr. Eben Alexander’s NDE. One of the central claims in the Esquire article was that Dr. Alexander’s coma was drug-induced rather than caused by the meningitis itself. Turns out, someone dug a little deeper re the claims in the Esquire article, including the allegation re coma:

skeptiko.com/220-esquire-proof-of-heaven-expose-debunked/
 
amoremseram said:
Earlier, there was a link to an article that appeared on Esquire that purportedly debunked Dr. Eben Alexander’s NDE. One of the central claims in the Esquire article was that Dr. Alexander’s coma was drug-induced rather than caused by the meningitis itself. Turns out, someone dug a little deeper re the claims in the Esquire article, including the allegation re coma:

skeptiko.com/220-esquire-proof-of-heaven-expose-debunked/
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One interesting comment at the end of your link

particularly interesting since Sam Harris claims that Eben Alexander is not qualified to comment on his experience since he’s a neurosurgeon… as opposed to a non-practicing neuroscientist like Harris.

About the fact that a rainbow was seen on a sunny day here is one more comment

In the book, it was stated that it had been raining for about a week; everyone knows that rainbows show up when there’s sun (“it was a sunny day…”), but there’s still enough precipitation around from previous rain to elicit the sun shining thru the water droplets and show a spectrum of color. I’m no scientist, but isn’t that obvious?
 
amoremseram said:
Earlier, there was a link to an article that appeared on Esquire that purportedly debunked Dr. Eben Alexander’s NDE. One of the central claims in the Esquire article was that Dr. Alexander’s coma was drug-induced rather than caused by the meningitis itself. Turns out, someone dug a little deeper re the claims in the Esquire article, including the allegation re coma:

skeptiko.com/220-esquire-proof-of-heaven-expose-debunked/
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One interesting comment at the end of your link

particularly interesting since Sam Harris claims that Eben Alexander is not qualified to comment on his experience since he’s a neurosurgeon… as opposed to a non-practicing neuroscientist like Harris.

About the fact that a rainbow was seen on a sunny day here is one more comment

In the book, it was stated that it had been raining for about a week; everyone knows that rainbows show up when there’s sun (“it was a sunny day…”), but there’s still enough precipitation around from previous rain to elicit the sun shining thru the water droplets and show a spectrum of color. I’m no scientist, but isn’t that obvious?
 
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