Near death experience, The Void

[mikekle]

I saw this yesterday when I was reading about this NDE of another person, they both had described a ‘void’, and surprisingly there are MANY MANY people who also claim they are in this void upon death, some say it is very peaceful, others say it is very frightening, so I think our own consciousness has something to do with it. This ladies NDE in the void is very amazing, I think God has touched her soul! You can just tell how devout a christian she is!

youtube.com/watch?v=-2W9G4lOqCs

 

[phil_at_dayboro]

Thank you for Shareing , this is always an interesting Topic

 

[lakotak]

My mother flat lined twice, actually turned blue in the hospital, a short time before her death and she explained to me that each time she was in a dark void. She did not see anything as she looked around, but she said that she definitely felt a presence and that it was very peaceful in the void.

 

[DaisymaeD]

I like NDE stories, they’re facinating to read or hear about, but my main problem with them is–I’m not sure they give us any useful information about the afterlife.

There some evidence to suggest that phenomenon like the tunnel and the light are the natural effects of decreasing oxygen to the brain.

Also, all these people came back to tell their story. In other words, they didn’t “stay dead”. I wonder if the experience of dying and staying that way starts like an NDE, hen segues into something else. Or maybe their experience is something else altogether.

BTW, I believe in a Catholic-style afterlife. NDE stories just don’t affect that belief in one direction or the other.

 

[mikekle]

Also, all these people came back to tell their story. In other words, they didn’t “stay dead”. I wonder if the experience of dying and staying that way starts like an NDE, hen segues into something else. Or maybe their experience is something else altogether.

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I used to think that way too, since they came back , then they must not have been truly dead…But, I was wrong, these people were clinically dead on the table, all the medical devices hooked up to them say they are dead…now, I tend to think they were really dead, but its usually under 20 minutes.

Dead is dead…however i guess we dont really know if the brain clings on a little bit longer before the REAL death, IDK, maybe this is our brains in the process of dying.

Although this would not explain alot of people having the exact same kind of experience. Another thing I cannot explain, Ive read many NDEs where it is not anything close to others, these people claim to meet a ‘light being’, their experiences contradict what Christianity teaches, so Im not sure what those are.

 

[DaisymaeD]

I’ll probably wind up sounding like I’m contradicting myself LOL, but sometimes dead isn’t quite dead.

Sometimes at work I have to pronounce on somebody, and in broad strokes it means no heart beat–confirmed by stethoscope-- or respiration for one minute. Because these patients are generally on hospice care, we’re not using technology. They are depleted and have no reserves. They are yellow and waxy looking with relaxed facial features and no muscle tone. I’ve never had anybody “come back”–I think that’s more common in people on machines.

I have had the experience of “agonal breathing”, where there’s no heart beat, but gasping occurs. It’s not true respiration, but more like the last scattered signals from the brain. And sometimes that happens for several minutes.

However, every so often the story circulates about somebody coming back after 20 minutes or even more, despite not being on machines. It’s not always entirely clear the precise moment of death.

 

[Deus_tecum]

I read an account of a hospice nurse that said some patients got a look of peace suddenly and even sat up and conversed with relatives who had passed, or expressed that they saw angels. The nurse noticed this happened most with people who were not on narcotic medication, and it never happened to those on the meds.