Near Death Experience

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Im dubious about NDE’s because of the differences in them. Some say that they end up judging themselves and only sense profound love from the “Divine”. Some don’t see Christ, but see the Buddha, or Mohammid, or just have a sense of a divine presence.

The brain is a very powerful organ and under anesthesia doctors have been able to replicate NDE’s by the area of the brain they stimulate

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Curious how this is related to the Traditional Catholicism forum. 🤷
 
The head, deprived of breath, can do very strange things.

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thistle said:
There is no such thing as an NDE.
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Regardless of what you label the experience, there are people who experience something when they have a medical crisis where the brain is deprived of oxygen or other similar medical crisis.

It’s that “something” that the OP is referring to, and what this one person’s experience was.

Like I said before, there is too much variation in the reports of those who have NDE’s to think that they are anything other than the brain reacting to a medical crisis.
 
Marie5890 said:
Im dubious about NDE’s because of the differences in them. Some say that they end up judging themselves and only sense profound love from the “Divine”. Some don’t see Christ, but see the Buddha, or Mohammid, or just have a sense of a divine presence.

The brain is a very powerful organ and under anesthesia doctors have been able to replicate NDE’s by the area of the brain they stimulate

near-death.com
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And what can be said of all the similarities?
 
otjm said:
And what can be said of all the similarities?
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That is a great question. There are similarities indeed, yet some very real differences.
Most feel a profound sense of love, but no sense of judgement other than how they judge themselves during a life review.

It seems that the culture that people grow up in is very much at play with what they experience (i.e. Buddhist, Muslim, Christian, Jew, Atheist etc)
 
otjm said:
And what can be said of all the similarities?
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The similarities, such as they are, could be the result of these experiences all generating in a breath-deprived human head.

NB. I am not anti NDE; I just don’t want to put faith in something that might get disproven.

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GEddie said:
The similarities, such as they are, could be the result of these experiences all generating in a breath-deprived human head.

NB. I am not anti NDE; I just don’t want to put faith in something that might get disproven.

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I don’t have a dog in this one, and for sure I am not a proponent of them. However, I do recall a doctor, some years ago, who had kept information collected from patients. As I recall, he wrote a book, but it wasn’t about a lot of “la la” experiences; rather, it was experiences of patients who basically had a vision of hell. My recollection was that he was evangelical in background. Correctly or not, he was convinced that some people do have some sort of out-of-body experience that is not of this world.

I also seem to recall that loss of oxygen to the brain results in serious brain damage; yet many of the people who supposedly experience some sort of transitional episode don’t seem to have brain damage.

In any event, there is no particular reason to presume that it is not possible that people do have some sort of other-world experience. There are also numerous stories of people who have allegedly had such experiences who come back “changed”, and supposedly for the positive - that is, their approach to and with others has changed.

And then there is St. Paul. Oxygen deprivation? I think not…

I don’t think that out-of-body experiences are going to be “disproven”. They certainly have been challenged, particularly by members of the medical community who may have no belief in any afterlife.

I remain skeptical, but not deeply so; it does not impact me much as it is something I spend little time with. Very little.
 
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