Near Death Experiences

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Consciousness is a process, however, not a “thing.” Processes can end.
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First, I never stated that consciousness is a “thing”, so please refrain from misstating my words.

Our physical brains are composed of matter - neurons, electrons, and more. According to science, physical matter cannot be destroyed. Transformed, but not destroyed.

How do we define the mind? How do we begin to define consciousness, or even spirituality? Both are far too complex to even begin to label as simple “things” or “processes”.

If such mundane, material matter can neither be created nor destroyed, how much more so our higher elements, such as our consciousness and spiritual selves?

We need not turn to physics for our answers. Our faith has already provided adequate explanation.
 
I found this thread shortly after starting one of my own elsewhere. My initial search did not disclose this thread.

My father died just over one week ago (at the very moments some of the posts to this thread were written) and I witnessed him trying to speak to his mother the day before he died as well as staring intently at someone or something above and around his bed. I blogged about it in greater detail here.

Is there any official Catholic authority/perspective on these ideas that anyone can point me to?
 
Luke35 said:
I found this thread shortly after starting one of my own elsewhere. My initial search did not disclose this thread.

My father died just over one week ago (at the very moments some of the posts to this thread were written) and I witnessed him trying to speak to his mother the day before he died as well as staring intently at someone or something above and around his bed. I blogged about it in greater detail here.

Is there any official Catholic authority/perspective on these ideas that anyone can point me to?
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I don’t think the church says one way or another. There is nothing in church doctrine to say such experiences are impossible.

One related experience- and there are others- was that Saint Faustina said she visited hell and wrote about it in her diary which is approved by the Church. It is quite interesting to read this section. I think she spoke of different levels- just as Dante did.
 
One of things I dont think anyone can explain, is how some people that have these NDEs, are able to see and read ‘YOU ARE DEAD’ signs that some hospitals have placed on ceilings, its not possible for someone only experiencing a physical symptom to even be able to read such a sign…??
 
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One of things I dont think anyone can explain, is how some people that have these NDEs, are able to see and read ‘YOU ARE DEAD’ signs that some hospitals have placed on ceilings, its not possible for someone only experiencing a physical symptom to even be able to read such a sign…??
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No comprende.
 
Luke35 said:
I found this thread shortly after starting one of my own elsewhere. My initial search did not disclose this thread.

My father died just over one week ago (at the very moments some of the posts to this thread were written) and I witnessed him trying to speak to his mother the day before he died as well as staring intently at someone or something above and around his bed. I blogged about it in greater detail here.

Is there any official Catholic authority/perspective on these ideas that anyone can point me to?
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I don’t think there are any official teachings on this topic, but here is an interesting article about death-bed visitations you might like: everydayhealth.com/columns/jared-bunch-rhythm-of-life/families-and-the-spiritual-aspects-of-cardiac-arrest-and-death/?pos=1&xid=nl_EverydayHealthHeartHealth_20150123
 
boomerang said:
I don’t think there are any official teachings on this topic, but here is an interesting article about death-bed visitations you might like: everydayhealth.com/columns/jared-bunch-rhythm-of-life/families-and-the-spiritual-aspects-of-cardiac-arrest-and-death/?pos=1&xid=nl_EverydayHealthHeartHealth_20150123
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Thank you, boomerang, for sharing that thread with me. That was very helpful to read. The author’s effort to debunk the various skeptic alternate explanations was reassuring, even not coming from an exclusively Catholic authority.
 
Luke35 said:
Thank you, boomerang, for sharing that thread with me. That was very helpful to read. The author’s effort to debunk the various skeptic alternate explanations was reassuring, even not coming from an exclusively Catholic authority.
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Yes that is a great article and very comforting. My sister is dying of cancer and is angry that she has to die. She keeps asking why? I pray that she will have an experience like the ones in this article, and that our parents will help her cross over peacefully. I do believe our loved ones are always with us, just in another dimension.
 
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Yes that is a great article and very comforting. My sister is dying of cancer and is angry that she has to die. She keeps asking why? I pray that she will have an experience like the ones in this article, and that our parents will help her cross over peacefully. I do believe our loved ones are always with us, just in another dimension.
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Anger is one of the natural stages of death. But when the moment comes, there will be consolation. IMNAAHO.

ICXC NIKA
 
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