Necessary knowledge for salvation?

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Is there knowledge that is necessary for salvation, (i. e., the incarnation)?
 
Yes. There are dogmas which are the minimum for a Catholic to accept all dogma. Here is a short list of all dogma (255 in total, but if you want to read the other Truths not defined yet you may. I find it interesting) traditionalcatholicpriest.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Dogmas-Of-The-Faith.pdf

Also one must accept all the councils of the Church in what each council teaches papalencyclicals.net/Councils/

Finally, you must accept kerygma. catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/the-kerygma-enigma adoroergosum.blogspot.com/2014/01/the-kerygma-least-every-catholic-needs.html

I hope that helps
 
Well it depends. If there was absolutely no way you could have accepted or heard about the Faith, then there is sensibly no reason why you wouldn’t be able to be saved. God is not bound by the sacraments, so although there are “need-to-know” ideas, God will make the judgment of your soul based off of pretty much everything.

You should search for knowledge and truth, but if you come up short, God is understanding.
 
quandy57 said:
Well it depends. If there was absolutely no way you could have accepted or heard about the Faith, then there is sensibly no reason why you wouldn’t be able to be saved. God is not bound by the sacraments, so although there are “need-to-know” ideas, God will make the judgment of your soul based off of pretty much everything.

You should search for knowledge and truth, but if you come up short, God is understanding.
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Plus, infants and children do not have the knowledge a formed adult Christian has, yet they can be saved.
 
DeepDeepTrouble3 said:
Is there knowledge that is necessary for salvation, (i. e., the incarnation)?
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I don’t think so. At the very foundation for salvation, I think one has to be free from evil, such as: malice, hatred, and the like. But that is just to start with as a base. And, strictly speaking, there is not necessarily any knowledge that is required for such a disposition.
 
CB_Catholic said:
Plus, infants and children do not have the knowledge a formed adult Christian has, yet they can be saved.
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Why not make it real difficult and quote Christ, “Unless you become as a child you can not enter the Kingdom.” So does that mean that we would be better off without knowledge?

Of course those who are unable to comprehend are not expected to have the necessary knowledge. God is not a despot nor is he stupid.

If you are capable of knowledge and reject it, then you are dealing with something all together different.
 
HelenRose said:
Why not make it real difficult and quote Christ, “Unless you become as a child you can not enter the Kingdom.” So does that mean that we would be better off without knowledge?

Of course those who are unable to comprehend are not expected to have the necessary knowledge. God is not a despot nor is he stupid.

If you are capable of knowledge and reject it, then you are dealing with something all together different.
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I really don’t understand the sarcasm here. Rather unnecessary, I would think, but have a nice day and God bless you.
 
PopePiusXIISupp said:
Yes. There are dogmas which are the minimum for a Catholic to accept all dogma. Here is a short list of all dogma (255 in total, but if you want to read the other Truths not defined yet you may. I find it interesting) traditionalcatholicpriest.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Dogmas-Of-The-Faith.pdf

Also one must accept all the councils of the Church in what each council teaches papalencyclicals.net/Councils/

Finally, you must accept kerygma. catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/the-kerygma-enigma adoroergosum.blogspot.com/2014/01/the-kerygma-least-every-catholic-needs.html

I hope that helps
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You are not claiming that all of that is “Necessary knowledge for salvation,” I hope?
 
PaulfromIowa said:
You are not claiming that all of that is “Necessary knowledge for salvation,” I hope?
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Well there is not really necessary knowledge for salvation, but there has to be effort, with the right intentions…
 
PaulfromIowa said:
You are not claiming that all of that is “Necessary knowledge for salvation,” I hope?
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Yes I am claiming that it is necessary since that is what the Catholic church believes and teaches. I am not saying that you don’t have to do hours upon hours to do research on it. Just believe the dogmas and kerygma to be a Catholic. The councils of the church have proclaimed dogma or re-stated it so I cannot say that I don’t want to accept the Council of Nicea because I deem Arius to have been correct. I am not saying that you need to read all of the councils, but read a summary of them to get an idea of what it proclaimed. I also can’t say that I don’t believe in Transubstantiation because if I were to do that I would be a (formal) heretic, but if I did not know it was a dogma then I would be a material heretic.

If it is a non-Catholic, then since the Catholic Church is the true Church then one must be seeking out to know the truth since they would be ignorant of the truth. Now if they know the Catholic Church is the Church which Jesus founded and continue to reject it then imo they would have a slim chance at salvation since rejecting the Church is rejecting Christ. Remember when St. Paul was blinded by alight and Jesus told him, “Saul why do you persecute me?” The Church is the Mystical Body of Christ. I have no clue on why anyone would reject Christ.
 
PopePiusXIISupp said:
Yes I am claiming that it is necessary since that is what the Catholic church believes and teaches. I am not saying that you don’t have to do hours upon hours to do research on it. Just believe the dogmas and kerygma to be a Catholic. The councils of the church have proclaimed dogma or re-stated it so I cannot say that I don’t want to accept the Council of Nicea because I deem Arius to have been correct. I am not saying that you need to read all of the councils, but read a summary of them to get an idea of what it proclaimed. I also can’t say that I don’t believe in Transubstantiation because if I were to do that I would be a (formal) heretic, but if I did not know it was a dogma then I would be a material heretic.

If it is a non-Catholic, then since the Catholic Church is the true Church then one must be seeking out to know the truth since they would be ignorant of the truth. Now if they know the Catholic Church is the Church which Jesus founded and continue to reject it then imo they would have a slim chance at salvation since rejecting the Church is rejecting Christ. Remember when St. Paul was blinded by alight and Jesus told him, “Saul why do you persecute me?” The Church is the Mystical Body of Christ. I have no clue on why anyone would reject Christ.
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ohh, this is what you meant. I understand, yeah.
 
I think that it is important to know that Jesus gave Saint Peter the keys to Heaven and ministered where the Vatican is, and is buried there. This sets us apart somewhat from other denominations. I would also try to understand some of the similarities and differences between us (Catholics) and slightly close denominations such as the Episcapalian Church and Orthodox Churches. Believe in Angels, Saints, read up a little on their lives, and why we honor Orders. These are basic principles, and strive to send as much of your past sins to Jesus in reconciliation until you feel like you have completed that task. Afterwards, a good understanding of Scapulars and praying for sins committed by others so that may be healed in time are important if you want to go deeper. There are a lot of things you can do and are available around you which few partake in, but should try.
 
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