Need advice dealing with an online situation with an entertainment company

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Sigh. It’s difficult for me to be objective, but here’s the deal. Computer games have always been my hobby of choice, especially those that link up with my other interests, like history, geography, whatever. You could argue against my maturity as a guy in early thirties from here, and I wouldn’t really oppose you. Anyway.

There was that game, a sort of freeform historical one, a bit similar to Risk, but more complex. It was very involving and rewarding to play initially, despite some obvious flaws and illogicalities, but eventually the quality began to decrease sharply with post-release design changes via patching (non-optional conceptual changes to ‘vanilla’ game, not optional content or custom user modifications). Where most such patches released in a bugged state and needed a hotfix, in one case delayed a full month due to everybody in that company being on vacation. There is a very clear lack of proper flowcharting, not enough whiteboard time, no records of the big picture, skipped Quality Assurance procedures, probably not all of this but most of it or something in the same vein. Basically just winging it and being incompetent at it.

I had for a long time questioned the logic of some of their design decisions, with not too many constructive results, but no backlash against me, either, until something changed. I stopped following the generally obeyed convention that mandates that suggesting improvements is fine but one should maintain polite fiction that there are no flaws or errors or whatever. I started speaking more openly, I eventually questioned their professional standards, and the experience/supervision/staffing, whatever led to all those questionable decisions, band-aid solutions to problems, not knowing where they were going and everything else that a professionally acting software designer would avoid. Like, a professionally acting software designer wouldn’t even need the QA department to help remove or avoid those issues, they simply wouldn’t even have popped up.

Another problem was the company’s PR and communication line voicing complete satisfaction with themselves and no need for change. Some of the staffers act like they think they’re demigods to be worshipped, which is annoying. Their PR releases follow a similar style. I actually called them out on that once, too.

Anyway, backlash started and has so far involved insults, threats (telling me they’d ban me from the forums when they want to, no reason/rules violation needed), unprofessional comments, psychiatric advice, short messages resembling a moderator’s warning of infraction but not linking or citing anything specific, just accusations of trolling and a request to help them promote a positive atmosphere (meaning praise to them and no criticism) etc. — all these from not only professional corporates (or supposed to be) but actual PR people or related to that branch of the company. Misrepresentations were involved, possibly even some sort of lying.

My guess is that they reacted with very strong resentment against me, because I didn’t engage in the mindless trolling they tolerate in order to fake openmindedness (because ‘your product sucks’ is not something their users would regard seriously anyway) but actually provided arguments and most importantly I brought together the entire list of issues they don’t individually deny but are fighting tooth and nail to prevent anyone from aggregating and pointing out the sheer number or proposing some conclusions regarding the company’s professional standards or whether they have a clue as to what they’re doing.

A moment ago one of them, a high-up PR rep for community relations, posted an off-topic message in one of my threads, putting me down and divulging the contents of a private message I had sent him.

I calmly replied that he might wish to keep that stuff private, and that I was posting to suggest some things for the benefit of the actual developers and the user base, not to give him an opportunity to score PR points for himself by taking shots at me.

Some hours later they banned me for ‘rules violations’ (plural), for two days, and there’s a new message in my inbox I can’t access. Which means a transparently fake tirade on their part along with some threats and a couple of gratuitous insults, unless I’ve developed paranoia.

The ‘rules’ stuff contradicts their earlier reply — to my suggestion that they would be trumping up some infractions — that they didn’t need a reason and could ban me for just their wanting to ban me.

Anyway, this all is eating at me so much, probably due to the amount of PR black ops involved, the gross unfairness of all this, their carefree, careless attitude towards their own incompetence, the disregard for the customer that they officially hide but privately fault in your face, the clear lack of honesty/sincerity in some of those cases. Basically can’t believe this is happening with a normal international software corporation that’s supposed to have some standards.
 
It probably shouldn’t bother me so much, it just being a game, but I had participated a lot in the community, helping newbies, answering their threads, giving advice, sometimes encouragement, even writing historical fiction stories with screenshots from my actual games for people to read, and I won some community awards for that. To those guys it doesn’t matter, what matters is that they know that I know they are faking it and winging it and not being remourseful about it. Hence the extreme reactions and lack of standards (prosecution-worthy stuff, some of it) — in people who are used to being almost worshipped, so their precious bubble is bursting.

Also feels bad because I’d sunk hundreds of bucks in all the expansions. And it feels bad playing the game after this sort of thing and becoming an outcast from the online community.

It’s been festering for weeks now, impacting my ability to enjoy my free time, even work (due to the tension), and more. Still gotta pinch my arm all the time to make sure I’m not dreaming it all up.

Anyway, got some tips for me on dealing with this situation? Other than just simply ‘dude, cut your losses and just go?’ — which is probably sound advice but a little short?

In particular, any tips on how to:

— actually let it go;
— avoid allow anger to persist;
— avoid desiring revenge;
— quit thinking about initiating some sort of legal steps (already lodged a formal complaint with their PR department, with real-life name and proof of being a high-paying customer etc., as opposed to their jolly little private kingdom of a community forum; but I included informal feedback to help their PR dept. address some problems in their community relations);
— quit regretting the lost investment of having put so much time and money in their stuff (guilt issue on my part for the time and money expense maybe?);
— quit thinking I deserve something for everything I did for their community (and at some point giving some help to their PR department in connecting with their users);
— get over the thought that this will discontinue my stories that are in progress;
— get over the whole injustice angle;
— get over the professionals not having standards issue;
— get over having my mouth shut by them;
— get over them suppressing criticism and faking their PR/user/customer relations;
— everything else that’s appropriate in your opinion (and it’ll be refreshing to finally not have only my own opinion to go by, of which I’m quite tired).

Unfortunately, this also coincides with some problems in professional and private life as well (from which that game, to some extent, provided a way of escaping or at least detaching myself). Otherwise this perhaps would be easier to handle or the problem wouldn’t pop up (as much).

Thank you. I know this cost you some time to read for starters and not quit reading as you went. I appreciate this a lot, as shallow as it sounds.
 
Having known you for many years now, I think I know you well enough to share my REAL response:

“Dude, you aren’t in sixth grade”. 😉

Having indicated you have personal and professional things going on in your life that have caused you to go into an escapism mode and use this online community and game as a mechanism for that, I will recommend you walk away and start engaging IRL with people, places, and things.

This is completely unhealthy and sorta crazy that you’ve expended this much energy on the whole thing. Don’t go back there. Get out of your head and your fantasy world and engage in the real world. This is sounding almost at addiction level to me.

Talk to a counselor about your real life problems you have right now and maybe how to wean yourself from the entire online game world.

The level of engrossment you relay here is WAY beyond hobby. The amount of time and effort you are expending on this is not really doing anything to make you a better man, a better Catholic, or a SAINT.

There are needy people in the world, go get involved in helping them. Do meaningful things, not fantasy things.
 
I’d echo 1ke’s advice, in the main.

I do know what it’s like to suddenly be excluded from an online community which was a huge part of your life, as it happened to me when I took up the cause of trying to expose some dodgy-dealings being perpetrated through a forum. I really thought I wouldn’t get over it at the time. I did, though, and I was older than you are. I changed my life completely.

If you really enjoy the community aspect of your hobby, find another (friendlier) forum or start your own! It’s easy to do. I now post on another board and enjoy it. However, I don’t get involved in the politics of it all.

You need to make a clean break from that particular game, though. Don’t let it intrude so much on your peace of mind and your time. It’s not worth it, really.
 
OP, this is a huge warning sign that you are much too much engaged in an online fantasy world. Forget this game, company, period, forever. Disengage from that and concentrate on the real world.
 
Luke 6: 27: Love your enemies; do good to those who hate you. Bess those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.

You don’t need to have fluffy-bunny feelings toward them. You don’t have to excuse their behavior or pretend it didn’t hurt. Just give up the right to make them be wrong, and pray for them.
 
Out of curiosity what game forum did you get banned from? I have a vague suspicion that it’s Paradox, it fits in with your historical and geographical interests and from what I’ve heard they have a rather shi- err unconstructive way of dealing with criticism. My advise would be to let it go, but first get any aggression out of your system, leave bad reviews on gameing sites, and if it was me I’d make multiple accounts to really bring the rating down, complain to their PR department a little more, and make a YouTube video if you want, or a blog. In fact if you could contact a YouTube gameing channel like say Jaystwocents you may be able to get their attention.
 
My advise would be to let it go, but first get any aggression out of your system, leave bad reviews on gameing sites, and if it was me I’d make multiple accounts to really bring the rating down, complain to their PR department a little more, and make a YouTube video if you want, or a blog. In fact if you could contact a YouTube gameing channel like say Jaystwocents you may be able to get their attention.
Right, because adolescent revenge scenarios and behaviors are very helpful in moving past this as a productive, mature adult.
 
I like the advice to pray for them. That has helped me a lot with dealing with people who ahem rub me the wrong way both online and IRL. Once I start sincerely praying for them on a regular basis, it is a lot easier to deal with the frustration.
 
I would use this occasion to re-examine the balance of your life in general. I think people are happiest when they’re using their time in a balanced way, spending an appropriate amount of time on work, sleep, study, socialization, exercise, and recreation (such as gaming).

If you’re spending this much time arguing with the game company, then I would guess that your life is out of balance in general, which would affect your well-being in all sorts of ways. Personally, as I enter the final stages of finishing my PhD thesis, the need for balance (and the cost of spending time unwisely) becomes ever more clear.
 
In restrospect, when I listed out all those things like revenge, I was quite upset by the situation and maybe using a bit too strong words, or a bit too many.

I obviously don’t wish them ill or wish them any serious suffering, nor do I really feel tempted to. Rather, I feel motivated to fight back and force them — against their initial will — to realize that what they are doing is wrong, but first of all to show it to them that their deception can be seen through, it’s not as smart as they think, it isn’t going to work etc. To make them aware that there are consequences of their actions and choices. That supressing criticism is something they can do, but being wrong is not something they can change.

This is eating at me partly because an entertainment company is supposed to help bring people some relief from the worries of their busy days, therefore it has that certain kind of customer service thing where the goal ultimately is customer satisfaction. Whereas, in contrast, those guys have zero respect for the customer, they stop barely short of driving a personality cult of themselves and their company, they all but openly expect to be addressed in a deferential way, their focus is on making their forum a pleasant (work)place for their company’s employees without giving thought to customers. They always put themselves or their employees first. Like during that time when they botched a release — basically released something buggy and went all on a one-month vacation at Christmas time knowing the release was bugged — which clearly showed that employees’ feelings, comfort etc. far outweigh the customers’.

And then the whole cover up and posturing, where they talk to you about ‘constructive criticism’, ‘civil atmosphere’ etc. but it means you should stop expressing negative assessments of what they provide or anything else which is not positive. All the while the quality of their work is declining and had dipped well below professional standards at this point, despite charging heavily for all subsequent releases of ‘downloadable content’, which cost like $200 or $300 together as opposed to the $50-$70 you’d expect to pay for a high-quality one-off release.

Right now they redefining bugs as not bugs and practically using NLP to condition their ‘fans’ to accept their version, while acting quite arrogant about it, again, forcing everybody to talk deferentially to them and not question them or the wisdom of their decisions or talk too much about the things they do wrong (regardless true or not) etc., to combine with a reasonably proved disconnect between them and their user base, resulting from ignoring their users for too long a time and thinking they could get away with shoddy design work as long as the product looks pretty and is more or less technically stable.

That, and the PR black ops, where they neutralize a source of criticism by blackening his image or by humiliating him in public and lowering the profile of a popular member of community by demonstrating power, using humiliating words, slander, threats, whatever it takes. Not unheard of from corporate PR, legal or customer service departments, but not the standard, either.

In short, it comes down to this sort of being so unapologetic about their lack of regard for the customer and professionalism while being in the entertainment industry, and all the manipulation, lies, slander etc. in their PR ops. As an ex lawyer (more like a could-have-been but anyway) those kinds of things are particularly hard for me to take. In part because a bunch of my current and previous jobs have been connected to PR in some way, and what they’re doing feels so evil (in the ‘evil corporation’ kind of sense).

This would probably be the same with a company that I bought $200 worth of books or films from or someone who ran some sort of services business. i mentioned games, because people who make games for other people are supposed to help alleviate the burdens of everyday life, find some joy and diversion etc. and not this kind of evil corporation **** and self-worship and blatant disregard of all standards.

Obviously the matter is not help by my having spent time with them before and contributed to their community, which the company staff totally ignores because to them it matters more that I offered a couple of critical words about the company, so screw it that I’d also helped their other clients, directly or indirectly helped made their products popular etc.

But I guess I should call it just a game and call it quits as some of you guys say.
 
Right, because adolescent revenge scenarios and behaviors are very helpful in moving past this as a productive, mature adult.
That’d be more to just stop them, or stop them at least from pretending that they aren’t doing what they are doing. From deceiving other people. Etc.
 
My solution to your problem is to call the nearest soup kitchen and have them schedule you to work as frequently as you are able.
 
My solution to your problem is to call the nearest soup kitchen and have them schedule you to work as frequently as you are able.
Not viable in my line of work (impossible to schedule free time). My charitable involvement has to be restricted to pro bono work when I’m able or financial donations.
 
Not viable in my line of work (impossible to schedule free time). My charitable involvement has to be restricted to pro bono work when I’m able or financial donations.
Then how did you come up with the time to spend on this video game and their forums?
 
Then how did you come up with the time to spend on this video game and their forums?
Well, to be fair, you can do that sort of thing very late at night and when the opportunity presents itself, whereas the soup kitchen presumably wants to know exactly when you’ll be there.
 
Well, to be fair, you can do that sort of thing very late at night and when the opportunity presents itself, whereas the soup kitchen presumably wants to know exactly when you’ll be there.
They often serve breakfast too. THey don’t often require too much notice for one person. If it was a group of people, yes, but if it’s one person, you can call, generally the night before.
 
Chev,

I remember when I first came on CAF, you were quite a prolific poster. I enjoyed your posts, your insight, and your humor, especially concerning dating and matters of the opposite sex.

And then, I didnt see much from you. I guess you were off working and playing games in the time you used to post.

We would love to have you back again. I agree with what 1ke and others said. The game and it’s company are not worth it, and neither is fighting it if it is bringing so much misery to your life anyway. It will never be what it was to you before.

Time to break up with them Chev, and find another. 😉
 
Then how did you come up with the time to spend on this video game and their forums?
I’ve worked for up to 60 hours without sleep if necessary, I even remember putting gloves on bleeding hands to be able to continue typing when there was a need, but normally I always take time to rest, to disengage, to escape some, which usually means doing something intellectually engaging (sport would be better but doesn’t work out well for a number of reasons) but other than my normal work, or any work, for that matter. Preferaly a good book, but I’ll take a good game over a bad book still. In any case, as far as charitable activities are concerned, my preference would always be to do my normal professional work for a Church-owned or otherwise charitable organization without pay (otherwise they’d need to be using amateurs for the job or divert priests with relevant skills, but that still would be half-pro more likely than anything else) or just take overtime and donate the money a Catholic charity.
 
Right, because adolescent revenge scenarios and behaviors are very helpful in moving past this as a productive, mature adult.
Well I’m glad you agree! It’s always nice to meet people willing to stick up for themselves, too many people now-a-days bend over and take what ever phallic corporate injustice comes their way.
 
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