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I am in the process of converting to the Roman Catholic faith and have been able to reconcile most of my former misgivings pertaining to Church doctrine. I have friends from various faith backgrounds whose questions and arguments against the Catholic faith have really helped me to get to know the faith. I believe in papal infallibility, Catholic moral theology, and the real presence, etc. but there remain issues I don’t understand.

I prayed the rosary with a friend yesterday and I left perplexed. I don’t understand the repetition of the rosary prayer. Why isn’t each prayer said only once? Further, how does praying the rosary grant indulgences? Why are indulgences necessary?

My final question involves confession. I have an Orthodox friend who thinks it is odd that Catholics are sometimes required to do something beyond confessing and making whatever amends one can for their offense. The example he gave was the priest requiring the penitent to say three hail Marys. I wasn’t able to give him a decent answer as to why this is required since I am not quite sure about it either.
 
I am in the process of converting to the Roman Catholic faith
First off… congratulations! And, welcome ‘home’! 🙂
I prayed the rosary with a friend yesterday and I left perplexed. I don’t understand the repetition of the rosary prayer. Why isn’t each prayer said only once?
Hmm… there are many ways to answer this question. One that comes to mind is to ask you how often you’ve prayed the Lord’s Prayer. Once? Or many times? So, on one hand, I think that what you’re asking isn’t “why pray it more than once?”, but rather, “why repeat it in quick succession?”. (Fair enough?)

From a historical perspective, the rosary developed as a means to include normal Christians in the kind of intense prayer life that monks had. People saw that monks had an awesome spirituality, and part of that spirituality included praying the psalms. This, however, was a bit beyond the ability of normal folks (from the perspective of investment in time, and ability to memorize the psalms), so instead, a new prayer tradition developed: this prayer tradition was Scriptural (the Lord’s Prayer, “Hail, full of grace” / “the Lord is with you” / “blessed are you among women and blessed is the fruit of your womb”), it was devotional, and it allowed normal folks to gain a prayer-filled spirituality that followed in the example of consecrated religious. Part of the way it did this, of course, is through repetition. So, it’s not that we’re “just” praying the ‘Hail, Mary’; rather, we’re embracing a practice of prayer that has roots hundreds of years ago. Is it praiseworthy to pray just a single “Our Father” or “Hail Mary”? Of course. But this prayer tradition – the rosary – developed as a means of helping people develop a spirituality of daily prayer that was meant to be easily approachable by all the faithful.
 
I am in the process of converting to the Roman Catholic faith and have been able to reconcile most of my former misgivings pertaining to Church doctrine. I have friends from various faith backgrounds whose questions and arguments against the Catholic faith have really helped me to get to know the faith. I believe in papal infallibility, Catholic moral theology, and the real presence, etc. but there remain issues I don’t understand.

I prayed the rosary with a friend yesterday and I left perplexed. I don’t understand the repetition of the rosary prayer. Why isn’t each prayer said only once? Further, how does praying the rosary grant indulgences? Why are indulgences necessary?

My final question involves confession. I have an Orthodox friend who thinks it is odd that Catholics are sometimes required to do something beyond confessing and making whatever amends one can for their offense. The example he gave was the priest requiring the penitent to say three hail Marys. I wasn’t able to give him a decent answer as to why this is required since I am not quite sure about it either.
These might be of some help:
The Rosary
The Forgiveness of Sins
Primer on Indulgences
Myths about Indulgences
Purgatory

And to your question about saying a prayer once. If you’ve got a issue that you want prayed for, do you just pray about it once? Or do you pray about it multiple times until you receive an answer from God? And do you also ask others to pray for you, thus increasing the number of prayers about this one petition? Something to think about.
 
John Paul II wrote a beautiful apostolic letter on the rosary: Rosarium Virginis Mariae. I highly recommend it. 👍

I think your question on indulgences and Confession are related.

In a nutshell, all sin has both eternal and temporal (i.e. non-eternal) consequences.

Through the Sacrament of Confession, God forgives the eternal consequences. That’s the hard part. But the temporal consequences remain. So, if we stole something, God forgives the eternal consequences so that we are not barred from heaven, but the item is still stolen. The damage that results is still done.

The example I often hear is that of a kid hitting a baseball through a neighbor’s window. The kid goes over and says sorry and the neighbor forgives him. But the window is still broken. That broken window is the temporal consequence.

So while Confession forgives those eternal consequences, indulgences go toward satisfying the temporal debts. The Church, who was given the power to bind and loose by Christ, has the authority to regulate these indulgences. They are gifts of mercy.

Basically, indulgences are prayers. If you think about it, what better way to heal those rifts in the world caused by sin than through prayer?

That’s kind of what the penance given by the priest in Confession is, too. When we do something wrong, we crave being able to set things right. The penance allows us to contribute to that in some small way. As St. Paul said, to make up for what is lacking in the sufferings of Christ (Colossians 1:24). This is not to mean, of course, that Christ’s sacrifice wasn’t enough. But God chooses to allow us to participate in our redemption by uniting our small sacrifices to the one redeeming sacrifice of Christ. It’s not that God needs us to pay more of the debt because Jesus didn’t do enough. It’s that we need to participate for our own spiritual advantage.

Hopefully that makes sense and does not add to the confusion. :o
 
I was taught that saying the familiar Hail Mary in repetition allows easier meditation on the mysteries of the rosary which is based on Christ’s life and our faith. Meditating on our faith and Christ is the real prayer we are engaging in. The meaning of the prayer is brought to life. The Our Father etc allows a transition in meditation into the next mystery. As always Mary our Mother brings us to Jesus. It helps us remember The Father’s gift of His Son and the love they share through The Spirit. What a beautiful way to pray!
 
Further, how does praying the rosary grant indulgences? Why are indulgences necessary?

My final question involves confession. I have an Orthodox friend who thinks it is odd that Catholics are sometimes required to do something beyond confessing and making whatever amends one can for their offense. The example he gave was the priest requiring the penitent to say three hail Marys. I wasn’t able to give him a decent answer as to why this is required since I am not quite sure about it either.
OK. Believe it or not, these three questions all go together. 🙂

Let’s look at what the Church teaches about sacramental reconciliation. I’ll reference passages from the catechism as I go along, ok?

The sacrament of reconciliation consists of a number of parts: contrition (being sorry, hating the fact that we committed sin, and resolving not to do it again (1451), the physical act of confessing the sin to a priest (1456), and satisfaction (doing something to “fix” things).

Satisfaction is what your questions about penance and indulgences are all about.

First off, when we sin, we harm not only others but also ourselves. Penance is a means of “making satisfaction for” or “expiating” our sins: that is, it’s not a condition of forgiveness, but a means of making amends for our sins.

The catechism tells us that penance can take many forms: “it can consist of prayer, an offering, works of mercy, service of neighbor, voluntary self-denial, sacrifices, and above all the patient acceptance of the cross we must bear” (1460). Penance isn’t about forgiveness, it’s about doing something to help fix us. When a confessor says, “say three Hail Marys”, he’s not adding a condition for forgiveness, or trying to have us make amends to someone else – he’s giving us something to do that will help us heal.

OK – that’s “penance”. What about “indulgences”? These two are somewhat linked. When we go to confession, the guilt of our sins is forgiven, but there is still the “temporal punishment due to sins”. We go to confession and are forgiven; we also make amends. Yet, we are still weakened by our experience of sin. Like Mom used to tell me, committing little sins leads to committing big sins – the act of sinning turns me away from God and toward more sin. When someone forgives me, I’m still compromised by the fact that I sinned; even when I make amends, there’s still part of me that’s been ‘damaged’ by my experience. (Does that make sense?)

My goal, of course, is to get to heaven. If I’m in a state of grace when I die (i.e., my sins are forgiven), then I’ll make it to heaven. But… there’s a problem. In heaven, I’ll be perfect (after all, in heaven – in the presence of God – all is perfect). But, like I’ve just said, the experience of sin damages me. So, something has to happen between the time of my death (at which point I hope that I’ll have been forgiven of sin, but yet I’ll probably still be ‘damaged’) and the time I’m in heaven (at which point I’m ‘perfected’). That ‘something’ is Purgation – the process of purification in which I’m perfected.

There are two ways of being perfected: purgation after death (which folks call ‘Purgatory’) and removal of this damage here on earth. This ‘damage’ is also called “the temporal punishment due to sins”; an indulgence “is a remission before God” (1471) of that damage. How can we express the extent of the damage and the amount of “fixing” that we’ll need? Well, back in the day, they used the idea of time: indulgences were expressed in terms of “days”, “months”, or “years”. That was helpful, but folks took it too literally. These days, the Church talks about partial or plenary (full) indulgences – that is, indulgences that remove part or all of the damage.

You asked whether indulgences are necessary. No, strictly speaking, they’re not. Of course, that doesn’t mean that they’re not good… 😉

Maybe I should pause to give you an opportunity to ask questions to clarify anything I’ve said…?
 
Something else that might help. A fairly recent post by NFPgirl contained a very nice analogy to help with understanding the eternal vs. temporal consequences.
Say you and I are playing baseball my backyard and to prove my batting prowess, I boast that I can hit the ball into my neighbour’s window. To prove my point, I hit the ball through my next door neighbour’s window (sin). The moment the window shatters, I realise that I have done wrong, feel horrible about it, and immediately go to my neighbour to apologise and beg her forgiveness (repentence and confession). Being a kind and understanding woman, my neighbour accepts my apology and forgives my misdeed (or sin, if you will – absolution); however, she isn’t finished talking to me. There’s still the problem of her window. Even though I have apologised and been forgiven, it is still shattered. She continues on to say that although she does forgive me, she would like for me to pay to have it repaired (penance). I give her some money to cover the cost and we part ways. Two days later, she telephones me to say that she’s just received an estimate from a glass repair shop and the cost to repair it is more than the amount I gave her on the day that I broke the window and she needs a little more money. Having just spent my last dime, I tell her that I am now broke and have no more money to give her (death) but perhaps I could come work off the rest of my debt by weeding her garden, raking leaves, or doing other odd jobs she needs done (suffering in purgatory). She agrees to this; however, as I am saying this, my mother overhears me talking on the phone and knowing the situation – my misdeed and that I have spent my last dime – she offers to pay the remaining money to our neighbour on my behalf (prayers for the dead). After my mother sends our neighbour a check for the remainder of the money, I am finally and completely in the clear (attaining purification) and am able to move forward with my life (eternity in heaven).

I hope this helps a little bit!
 
Something else that might help. A fairly recent post by NFPgirl contained a very nice analogy to help with understanding the eternal vs. temporal consequences.
Wow…thanks …that was beautiful and a great way to think about it…truly…tks…to the individual converting to Catholicism…my brief contribution to the Rosary…repetitive prayers…I found a beautiful old book on one of those discount tables at the the Library at Our Lady of Holy Cross College (Junior Year)…and…the book was tattered …The Spendor of The Rosary…great read…explains the history of the Rosary …just as the very learned individual before me mentions the psalms…and more…what struck me was the comment , which helps me with protestants arguing the old …we’re not supposed to repeat prayers…wow…talk about misinterpreting Scripture…anyway…think of a mother/father rocking their child…and saying over and over ‘I love you’ I love you’ I love yous…the mantra helps …meditative/the mysteries, prayerful…PAX …love to hear from people coming home to Rome
 
Wow…thanks …that was beautiful and a great way to think about it…truly…tks…to the individual converting to Catholicism…my brief contribution to the Rosary…repetitive prayers…I found a beautiful old book on one of those discount tables at the the Library at Our Lady of Holy Cross College (Junior Year)…and…the book was tattered …The Spendor of The Rosary…great read…explains the history of the Rosary …just as the very learned individual before me mentions the psalms…and more…what struck me was the comment , which helps me with protestants arguing the old …we’re not supposed to repeat prayers…wow…talk about misinterpreting Scripture…anyway…think of a mother/father rocking their child…and saying over and over ‘I love you’ I love you’ I love yous…the mantra helps …meditative/the mysteries, prayerful…PAX …love to hear from people coming home to Rome
I’m just a messenger, thanks for the analogy should go to NFPgirl.👍
 
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