Need for an annulment

[kyshare]

My son is currently living with a divorced woman and they have a 2yr old daughter. They are getting married in Oct of 09. She is not Catholic and her first marriage was by a JP. My son knows that I would like for him to come back to the Church and have his daughter baptized. She knows that I would like them to be married in the Catholic church. She told my son that she doesn’t want to have to go through an annulment. What is the Church teaching this? Thank you for you help.

 

[SuscipeMeDomine]

My son is currently living with a divorced woman and they have a 2yr old daughter. They are getting married in Oct of 09. She is not Catholic and her first marriage was by a JP. My son knows that I would like for him to come back to the Church and have his daughter baptized. She knows that I would like them to be married in the Catholic church. She told my son that she doesn’t want to have to go through an annulment. What is the Church teaching this? Thank you for you help.

The best answer for questions like this is that your son should speak with his pastor. He can lay out all the information and answer any questions that might arise.

In general, one of the requirements for someone to get married is that they need to be free to marry. Since your future daughter-in-law was married, the presumption is that she was validly married and therefore isn’t free to marry again. The way around that is to test whether the marriage was valid by taking it to a Tribunal – in other words, applying for a declaration of nullity/annulment.

 

[Dempsey1919]

I recommend that you speak to your priest, or write a letter to your Bishop. I think this is a matter of Canon Law and you really need to speak to a qualified person.

 

[Seatuck]

My son is currently living with a divorced woman and they have a 2yr old daughter. They are getting married in Oct of 09. She is not Catholic and her first marriage was by a JP. My son knows that I would like for him to come back to the Church and have his daughter baptized. She knows that I would like them to be married in the Catholic church. She told my son that she doesn’t want to have to go through an annulment. What is the Church teaching this? Thank you for you help.

You should talk to your priest about this and see if your son will go with you . There is some information missing such as was the husband a baptized catholic who married outside the church and a few other questions. Your priest can guide you through the rest. You are on the right track though wanting your son to be right with God and the Church. Usually , all marriages are considered valid until proven otherwise. So no marriage in the church could be attempted without at least some paperwork depending upon the information that is missing.

 

[quiet52]

In the eyes of the Church, your son’s fiance is still married.
So the Church can’t allow your son to marry someone who is still married.

 

[OutinChgoburbs]

If your son is old enough to live with a woman who has been previously married, and they in turn have a 2 year old, well, there’s not a whole lot you can do there.

He’s big enough to go to his pastor on his own. Something tells me he doesn’t think it’s necessary at this time.

You know what Church teaching on marriage is. She needs a decree of nullity, either a full blown tribunal proceeding, or a defect of form. You don’t know the full circumstances of her courtship, marriage and divorce from the first husband. Even if you did, she’s an adult.

But if none of these baby-making adults is headed to the parish to make arrangements with Father, there is not a whole lot you can do.

You can pray for them. If the topic comes up, you can give a very gentle answer as to what needs to be done. You can encourage your granddaughter’s baptism, which will mean they have to go arrange that at the parish, and get some catechesis.

If I were you, I would be very careful about boycotting the wedding, which is not necessarily necessary. As much as possible, you want to keep those lines of communications open if you possibly can.

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[cspb56]

If the first marriage was not performed by a priest or minister but by a justice of the peace then it was NOT a sacramental marriage and therefore an annulment is not necessary. An annulment addresses the sacramentality of a marriage. A JP can only perform a marriage in the legal sense not the sacramental. Some paperwork might be needed but not an annulment. You parish priest should be able to help you.

 

[SuscipeMeDomine]

If the first marriage was not performed by a priest or minister but by a justice of the peace then it was NOT a sacramental marriage and therefore an annulment is not necessary. An annulment addresses the sacramentality of a marriage. A JP can only perform a marriage in the legal sense not the sacramental. Some paperwork might be needed but not an annulment. You parish priest should be able to help you.

That’s only true if at least one of the parties involved was Catholic. Non-Catholics are not bound by the same requirements. In addition, an annulment addresses the validity of the marriage, not its sacramentality.

 

[Br.Rich_SFO]

My son is currently living with a divorced woman and they have a 2yr old daughter. They are getting married in Oct of 09. She is not Catholic and her first marriage was by a JP. My son knows that I would like for him to come back to the Church and have his daughter baptized. She knows that I would like them to be married in the Catholic church. She told my son that she doesn’t want to have to go through an annulment. What is the Church teaching this? Thank you for you help.

Your son cannot validly Marry a divorced person, he should not even be living with her. She has no choice but to begin an annulment. In the mean time he should live elsewhere.

 

[RMRilke]

Your son cannot validly Marry a divorced person, he should not even be living with her. She has no choice but to begin an annulment. In the mean time he should live elsewhere.

My husband was raised Catholic and married twice before meeting and marrying me in a civil ceremony. I am in the process of rejoining the Catholic church. I feel that I was deceived by him since he never mentioned he was married in the Church. We have one child together who has not been baptized. I want to live in full accordance with the Church, but my husband, who is a bible-believing Christian, does not want to rejoin the Church. Am I married, not married, living in sin? Once I attend confession, can I receive the Eucharist if I am not married in the Church? Thank you, in advance, for your response.

 

[OutinChgoburbs]

My husband was raised Catholic and married twice before meeting and marrying me in a civil ceremony. I am in the process of rejoining the Catholic church. I feel that I was deceived by him since he never mentioned he was married in the Church. We have one child together who has not been baptized. I want to live in full accordance with the Church, but my husband, who is a bible-believing Christian, does not want to rejoin the Church. Am I married, not married, living in sin? Once I attend confession, can I receive the Eucharist if I am not married in the Church? Thank you, in advance, for your response.

Make an appointment with a priest, who is best able to answer your questions. You will get such a variety of answers here you will be even more confused. Your best bet is to start with your local priest. If you don’t think you heard him correctly, ask him to explain in detail. If you still don’t think you heard right, go to his dean or call the chancery of your diocese and ask them to explain it to you.

 

[Br.Rich_SFO]

My husband was raised Catholic and married twice before meeting and marrying me in a civil ceremony. I am in the process of rejoining the Catholic church. I feel that I was deceived by him since he never mentioned he was married in the Church. We have one child together who has not been baptized. I want to live in full accordance with the Church, but my husband, who is a bible-believing Christian, does not want to rejoin the Church. Am I married, not married, living in sin? Once I attend confession, can I receive the Eucharist if I am not married in the Church? Thank you, in advance, for your response.

I cannot sprcifically address you situation directly, Make an appointment with your pastor.

A Catholic cannot validly attempt another Marriage without first obtaining a decree of nullity from the diocese Tribunal after an annulment process. A civil ceremony is not recognized by the church unless a specific dispensation is received from the Bishop before the Marriage. A person who is not Married in the Church cannot receive any Sacraments until the situation is resolved, especially Holy Communion.

 

[puzzleannie]

If the first marriage was not performed by a priest or minister but by a justice of the peace then it was NOT a sacramental marriage and therefore an annulment is not necessary. An annulment addresses the sacramentality of a marriage. A JP can only perform a marriage in the legal sense not the sacramental. Some paperwork might be needed but not an annulment. You parish priest should be able to help you.

this whole answer is simply wrong
annulment is about validity, not sacramentality

the gentleman needs to see his pastor and lay out all facts about his situation. Futile to discuss here because we cannot know all the details, and there are dozens of variables that must be considered. His mother cannot help him in this, he has to do this himself.

 

[Seatuck]

My husband was raised Catholic and married twice before meeting and marrying me in a civil ceremony. I am in the process of rejoining the Catholic church. I feel that I was deceived by him since he never mentioned he was married in the Church. We have one child together who has not been baptized. I want to live in full accordance with the Church, but my husband, who is a bible-believing Christian, does not want to rejoin the Church. Am I married, not married, living in sin? Once I attend confession, can I receive the Eucharist if I am not married in the Church? Thank you, in advance, for your response.

You really want to make an appointment with a priest. There’s a lot to this situation and you really are going to want spiritual direction to wade through it.There are several steps you are going to have to go through before you will be able to receive the Eucharist. Prayers for your patience.

I’m glad you are on a journey back to the church. Praise God for That!