Need help; battle against marijuana

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It seems that our society has gone to the (hell) dogs. One curse in particular is marijuana. In what I have heard; countries that have legalized the narcotic has serious corruption in every day life. Sloth, gluttony, and even lust appear to explode from it as the morals to the local people fall horribly. It is horribly addictive as those who are or unwilling to notice it is claim that there are no physical/chemical addiction…actually trying to refrain from the truth that it does not need to be like nicotine in order to being addictive. Use of such drug creates an natural unbalance within the brain creating a situation when a person is no longer in control of their own body and mind = In my opinion; weakening their spirit. Now though this is absolutely obvious to me and I would think common sense, unfortunately it is not.

Are there any websites that can help spread knowledge and means about the stupidity to marijuana? Articles and/or books that do the same? Movies/documentaries perhaps that expose marijuana for what it is?

We need to tackle this problem in the U.S. before it spreads creating a numbing in our society and destroys our ability to think for ourselves.
 
Wow, you have an amazing voice to speak out for those trapped in addiction! More power to you!

Unfortunately, I don’t have any resources to help you. I myself have done a lot of research on the use of marijuana, its effects, and how countries have fared since they legalized it and I haven’t found anything that speaks to the damage the occasional use of the drug causes. There are volumes, however, about the continual abuse of the drug.

drugabuse.gov/infofacts/marijuana.html

This is a good resource about those effects.

It’s hard to find data about the health drawbacks or addictive potential since most experts agree that the substance poses no threat of physical addiction, only mental addiction. Also, negative health effects don’t appear until one has continually abused the drug to an extreme for many, many years. I did find a chart that explains the harmfulness of the drug on an addiction and physical damage level:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Rational_scale_to_assess_the_harm_of_drugs_(mean_physical_harm_and_mean_dependence).svg/350px-Rational_scale_to_assess_the_harm_of_drugs_(mean_physical_harm_and_mean_dependence).svg.png<br

I pray that you find the answers you are looking for, and serve God’s will in your quest!!
 
In all honesty, I would prefer someone to be a pothead as opposed to an alcoholic or even a cigarette smoker. The dangers of alcohol,tobacco, and obesity are more severe than marijuana. I would like to see marijuana decriminalized in the U.S.

Peace, T 🙂

For the record: I DO NOT USE MARIJUANA. I don’t even drink alcohol. 👍
 
da_nolo said:
We need to tackle this problem in the U.S. before it spreads creating a numbing in our society and destroys our ability to think for ourselves.
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Our educators are doing a fine job of that all by themselves. 😉

Other than that, marijuana should be legalized since the effects of the existing societal sanctions upon society as a whole are far more dangerous and deadly than anything the drug could ever do, and as Catholics we can’t ignore the repercussions of societal ignorance and prejudice, nor the acquiescence to that ignorance and prejudice.

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Stylites said:
**Our educators are doing a fine job of that all by themselves. **😉

Other than that, marijuana should be legalized since the effects of the existing societal sanctions upon society as a whole are far more dangerous and deadly than anything the drug could ever do, and as Catholics we can’t ignore the repercussions of societal ignorance and prejudice, nor the acquiescence to that ignorance and prejudice.

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As an educator, I have only one thing to say about that…

"Hey!!!" 😉

We really do work hard and try the best we can. Unfortunately we can only do as much as the parents are willing to enforce at home…:o;)
 
da_nolo said:
It seems that our society has gone to the (hell) dogs. One curse in particular is marijuana. In what I have heard; countries that have legalized the narcotic has serious corruption in every day life. Sloth, gluttony, and even lust appear to explode from it as the morals to the local people fall horribly. It is horribly addictive as those who are or unwilling to notice it is claim that there are no physical/chemical addiction…actually trying to refrain from the truth that it does not need to be like nicotine in order to being addictive. Use of such drug creates an natural unbalance within the brain creating a situation when a person is no longer in control of their own body and mind = In my opinion; weakening their spirit. Now though this is absolutely obvious to me and I would think common sense, unfortunately it is not.
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It seems you don’t have a lot of support. I don’t know what I’m supposed to think. One the one hand, I can relate to your argument that morals in those countries (my country, the Netherlands) fail, on the other hand, I’ve heard that less people actually smoke marijuana here than in the US :confused:. And by the way, marijuana addictions are NOT less dangerous that nicotine addictions, simply because you smoke marijuana with tobacco.
 
karoleck said:
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6732005.stm

Perhaps the above link might bring reality into this thread----85% increase of admittance to a mental hospital because of Marijuana smoking in England IN ONE YEAR!! harmless-yea right!:eek:
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Good post!!!

I notice that the article talks about the admittance numbers could very well be repeat patients. I also notice that the article states that those being admitted report use of exceptionally high dosages of the drug, over long periods of time. I also wonder if those reporting psychosis started using the drug in the formitive years of brain development (specifically, adolesence).

I’d be interested to see data about how most of the users in the United States use it. Moderately, in small doses, and spaced far apart. Anything to an extreme is bad, even water. Drinking too much water can kill you. Smoking too much pot over long periods of time can drive your brain over the deep end.
 
rcpsych.ac.uk/mentalhealthinformation/mentalhealthproblems/alcoholanddrugs/cannabisandmentalhealth.aspx

Here is another one from “Shrinks”–they must know one would think! In this the Doctors warn of slow learning frm smoking “pot” etc,etc,etc the list goes on–even if **one **young person keeps away from marijuana–this thread would be worth it’s weight in gold.Jesus is the only reality that anyone needs,to be “straight” means we can love Him with a clear mind and heart.Anyone who smokes dope is one!
St.Maximilian Kolbe,a patron of druggies,help people who have a drug problem to overcome it.
 
marijuana-anonymous.org/

If marijuana is no more harmful than drinking water–why the need for this website & organization? I have never seen a website called www.water- anonymous!!:Dthough I have heard of people being on the “water wagon”! Chiropractors love it when drink plenty of water in fact!! so drink water and don’t smoke dope!! :eek:Give the bong the gong I say!The only healthy cone is an icecream variety!
 
teadough said:
In all honesty, I would prefer someone to be a pothead as opposed to an alcoholic or even a cigarette smoker. The dangers of alcohol,tobacco, and obesity are more severe than marijuana. I would like to see marijuana decriminalized in the U.S.

Peace, T 🙂

For the record: I DO NOT USE MARIJUANA. I don’t even drink alcohol. 👍
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I agree. I have much more concern for alcohol abuse than abuse of canibus. Alcohol and caffeine are drugs too!

I don’t think use of either canibus or alcohol should be considered a crime. Prohibition of marijuana and other drugs has had some very nasty results just as it did when we experimented with prohibition of alcohol.

Best,
Leela
 
Marijuana serves as a gateway drug. Comparing marijuana to other substances such as cigarrets and alchohol does not make it acceptable. My biological father (God bless his soul) was a juvinial dilinquint to the core because of the stupidity this drug has caused him. He’s tried every drug under the sun to get higher than he was on before. It should be considered socially inapropriate, just as cigarrets and alchohol should be. Liberals like Bill Maher are going to destroy this country from the inside out. Children are going to have even easier access to marijuana if it is legalized. (To HELL with the parents that allow their children to get high.) Graduation rates are already too low, we don’t need any more stupidity in this country.
 
MrZetterlund said:
Marijuana serves as a gateway drug. Comparing marijuana to other substances such as cigarrets and alchohol does not make it acceptable.
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What do you mean by a gateway drug?

Cigarrettes and alcohol aren’t “gateway drugs?”
 
Leela said:
What do you mean by a gateway drug?

Cigarrettes and alcohol aren’t “gateway drugs?”
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When people smoke marijuana it is to get high. Well people who enjoy getting high tend to not settle with marijuana. They seek “better drugs” to get higher. I have a friend who’s still screwed up to this day because he went down this path. Again, comparing it to cigarrets and alchohol doesn’t make it ok. If it were up to me, none of them would be legal. They’re nothng but a plague to health and the well being of society.
 
MrZetterlund said:
When people smoke marijuana it is to get high. Well people who enjoy getting high tend to not settle with marijuana. They seek “better drugs” to get higher. I have a friend who’s still screwed up to this day because he went down this path. Again, comparing it to cigarrets and alchohol doesn’t make it ok. If it were up to me, none of them would be legal. They’re nothng but a plague to health and the well being of society.
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The gateway argument against marijuana is a bad one since there is alcohol is the biggest gateway drug by far, but if you think alcohol should also be illegal, then that is a different story. You are at least being consistent. But you should consider that given that there is a demand for these substances, the criminalization of these drugs has been “nothing but a plague to the health and well being of society.” That doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t do what can be done to reduce demand for harmful substances and promote responsible use of drugs such as alcohol, cigarrettes, and canibus. But our focus on the supply side has created an expensive war against very very lucrative crime. This war has a lot of collateral damage and has created vastly inflated prices that have made it possible for crime to pay and pay well.

Best,
Leela
 
I disagree with you. Having lived in Humboldt County (nothern California) part of the so-called Emerald Triange where marijuana growing has sadly become deeply immersed in the economy and culture, growers and others have continued to genetically alter components of marijuana in order to make it more potent. They are quite like the cigarette companies taht engaged in practices to alter the effects of nicotene years ago in order to boost the addictive character of tobacco,

Furthermore, virtually every institution in Humboldt County was under a state of seige as rampant drug use was destroying families, schools and the workplace.

One hopeful sign was that the number of young adults who had grown up in a marijuana based culture were going through recovery programs and gradually entering the various churches.

Perhaps one of the best things we can do is work to oppose efforts to legalize marijuana. It’s not the harmless drug proponents claim it to be.
teadough said:
In all honesty, I would prefer someone to be a pothead as opposed to an alcoholic or even a cigarette smoker. The dangers of alcohol,tobacco, and obesity are more severe than marijuana. I would like to see marijuana decriminalized in the U.S.

Peace, T 🙂

For the record: I DO NOT USE MARIJUANA. I don’t even drink alcohol. 👍
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tpw said:
I disagree with you. Having lived in Humboldt County (nothern California) part of the so-called Emerald Triange where marijuana growing has sadly become deeply immersed in the economy and culture, growers and others have continued to genetically alter components of marijuana in order to make it more potent. They are quite like the cigarette companies taht engaged in practices to alter the effects of nicotene years ago in order to boost the addictive character of tobacco,

Furthermore, virtually every institution in Humboldt County was under a state of seige as rampant drug use was destroying families, schools and the workplace.

One hopeful sign was that the number of young adults who had grown up in a marijuana based culture were going through recovery programs and gradually entering the various churches.

Perhaps one of the best things we can do is work to oppose efforts to legalize marijuana. It’s not the harmless drug proponents claim it to be.
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Note that obviously alcohol producers have tried to make alcoholic beverages more potent (having achieved the limit of he process in distillation of grain alcohol) just as tobacco and marijuana producers have.

Despite efforts to make marijuana more potent, unlike alcohol, last I heard there has never been a death caused by marijuana overdose.

Also consider that people using marijuana are far less likely to engage in antisocial behavior such a sexual assault and fighting. Marijuana is also far less likely to produce a chemical dependence than alcohol and cigarrettes.

All this might make you say, “Oh yeah? Well then why is it illegal then?” I wonder too. I suspect it had more to do with who was using it when it hit the scene (beatniks and hippies) than on what dangers it poses as compared to cigarrettes and alcohol.

Best,
Leela
 
Leela said:
The gateway argument against marijuana is a bad one since there is alcohol is the biggest gateway drug by far, but if you think alcohol should also be illegal, then that is a different story. You are at least being consistent. But you should consider that given that there is a demand for these substances, the criminalization of these drugs has been “nothing but a plague to the health and well being of society.” That doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t do what can be done to reduce demand for harmful substances and promote responsible use of drugs such as alcohol, cigarrettes, and canibus. But our focus on the supply side has created an expensive war against very very lucrative crime. This war has a lot of collateral damage and has created vastly inflated prices that have made it possible for crime to pay and pay well.

Best,
Leela
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No. Alchohol leads to more alchohol. Not other drugs.
Leela said:
Note that obviously alcohol producers have tried to make alcoholic beverages more potent (having achieved the limit of he process in distillation of grain alcohol) just as tobacco and marijuana producers have.

Despite efforts to make marijuana more potent, unlike alcohol, last I heard there has never been a death caused by marijuana overdose.

Also consider that people using marijuana are far less likely to engage in antisocial behavior such a sexual assault and fighting. Marijuana is also far less likely to produce a chemical dependence than alcohol and cigarrettes.

All this might make you say, “Oh yeah? Well then why is it illegal then?” I wonder too. I suspect it had more to do with who was using it when it hit the scene (beatniks and hippies) than on what dangers it poses as compared to cigarrettes and alcohol.

Best,
Leela
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I have a friend who’s 18 who’s facing a sexual batttery charge because he was baked and made out with a chick against her will.
 
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