Need resources for authentic contemplative traditions

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I recently read the following criticism of Fr. Thomas Keating’s Centering Prayer teachings:
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I have enjoyed Fr. Keatings writings and am interested in contemplative traditions. Can anyone direct me to resources for authentic contemplative practices that are faithful to the Church’s teachings?
 
You could look into Lectio Divina, it is used for meditation and contemplation in various monastic traditions. Here is a book guide to it.

I have also heard people speak very favourably on the Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius of Loyola.
 
The late Pope John Paul II second wrote and spoke quite a bit about St. John of the Cross. St. John of the Cross was a part of the Carmelites. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmelites

To me, the contemplative prayer methods used (in both the past and the present) by Carmelites is a true, authentic, Catholic way of contemplative prayer.

Consider these other famous, respected Carmelite saints

–St. Teresa of Avila
–St. Therese of Lisieux
–St. Teresa Benedicta of the Cross (died in the Nazi Auschwitz camp).

St. Teresa of Avila, St. Therese of Lisieux, and St. John of the Cross have all be declared to be Doctors of the Church. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctors_of_the_Church#List_of_Doctors_of_the_Catholic_Church

The book “The Interior Castle” by St. Teresa of Avila seems to get more famous and popular all the time. Even non-Catholics are finding value in it.

Recently Pope Benedict XVI recommended the mystical, contemplative path taught by St. John Climacus, who wrote works such as “Ladder of Divine Ascent.”

One thing: Carmelites live in monasteries. They don’t live in the world. They don’t have wives or husbands. They don’t have or raise kids. They don’t have to go to work at an office or warehouse or whatever. So how do their methods apply to someone living out her in the world of sin and folly? That is a good question. I think plenty of Catholic writers have addressed this issue.

In my experience, inner holy paths to great perceiving, feeling, knowing, and loving God are worthwhile and relevant to a layperson living out in the frenetic, busy, clamorous world. I do think if one is reading books like “The Interior Castle” by St. Teresa that one must so of mentally adapt it to one’s state and condition of life. We lay people in the world have a very different daily life that do those living in monasteries.

Most Carmeline monasteries have meetings that are open to lay people. If you have such a monastery, you might check it out.

I also recommend this article by a Catholic priest: christendom-awake.org/pages/calkins/biblanth.htm It may help you see what contemplation is all about.

Lastly, I would recommend that you not focus too much on finding or using any particular technique or method. To me, the most important thing is your DESIRE to perceive, feel, know and love God, your Heavenly Father. Your desire is what will lead to spiritual attainment.

Also important is that, as much as possible, find other people with this same desire, and have some association with them. Love for God and Love for Neighbor are inextricably intertwined, as all the teachers of spiritual ascent teach. Many people in the world rarely thing of God, or, if they do think of God, it is only in reference to help they want from God in attaining some worldly things or avoiding some worldly calamity. The spiritually-minded person thinks more about the Giver than about the Gifts. For your own good, and for the good of others, you need to periodically associate with others who are mostly seeking the Giver and not merely the Gifts.

Best wishes.
 
I recently read the following criticism of Fr. Thomas Keating’s Centering Prayer teachings:
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I have enjoyed Fr. Keatings writings and am interested in contemplative traditions. Can anyone direct me to resources for authentic contemplative practices that are faithful to the Church’s teachings?
The blog site you provided borders being fraudulent, in that the text she’s quoting from Fr Keating is out of context from what he wrote or may have said.

I’ll take what a spiritual Master Father Keating says over a lay Catechist.

Her information tends to be third hand information and finger pointing at people like Fr Keating and Oprah Winfrey, isn’t what Jesus taught.

If you enjoyed Fr Keating’s writings as you’ve stated, you’ll know that what he teaches is based on Catholic Tradition, from saints like St. John of the Cross and St. John Cassian, whom he quotes throughout his works.

One of the best books on contemplative prayer that is easy for contemporary people to understand is “Seeds of Contemplation,” by Thomas Merton.

The "Fire Within, " by Fr Dubay is also very good.

Jim
 
The blog site you provided borders being fraudulent, in that the text she’s quoting from Fr Keating is out of context from what he wrote or may have said.

I’ll take what a spiritual Master Father Keating says over a lay Catechist.
Had I come across this article on my own, I probably would have been more dismissive of it, but it was recommended by the host of Catholic Answers Live Radio on a recent show that featured Karl Keating (Who was quick to distance himself from Fr. Thomas Keating - “No relation” - and centering prayer). Given that, I thought there might be something to it. Though it did seem to me that the host had a misunderstanding of the use of the ‘sacred word’ in centering prayer, and was under the impression that one simply repeated the word over and over as one would a Hindu mantra.
 
Thank you all for your (name removed by moderator)ut and the links 🙂
 
The Cistercian’s are a contemplative monastic order which is extremely old, and I know the community at the Monastery of the Holy Spirit in Georgia uses centering prayer as part of their spiritual practices.

They run a retreat on centering prayer in the context of contemplative prayer. See (Removed ban topic link)

-Tim-
 
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