Need Some Advice On Conversion, RCIA

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I feel as though I am at a sort of crossroad in my life, but I am uncertain as to how to proceed. I’ve been a reader of CAF for some time now - I hope someone can help. Please bear in mind that I’m new to all this, and I hope that readers and responders will read and respond charitably.

I was baptised into the Church of Scotland (although I’m more “English” and “British” than Scottish). Until recently, I’ve not taken any great interest in my faith. Indeed, I was happy to consider myself an atheist.

I’ve come to feel that I’d gone along with atheism because of a kind of laziness on my part. It seemed reasonable - ignore whatever can’t be scientifically proven, or measured, or rationalised. It’s clear to me now, though, that this is a fairly empty and barren approach to life that is unreasonable in its exclusion of other modes of understanding everything around us and our place in the universe.

I once knew an evangelical Christian who had tried to (re)introduce me to Christianity. I didn’t really pursue it at the time. About six months ago, I started to think about the things he had told me and to read the books and pamphlets he had given me. From there, I branched out and tried to find the approach to Christ that seemed most relevant, wise, and humane. And so I ended with Roman Catholicism.

I fully accept the Roman Catholic Church’s position on almost everything. I accept that that which I don’t agree with, I may very well be incorrect on. I accept how the Church’s position and practices stem from (what I suppose to be) a millenia-long conversation that intertwines faith and reason, divinely. I understand how this conversation goes back to Jesus Christ and to God. And I understand that God can exist, and that He can and did send His Son to teach and redeem us (in contrast to my previous atheism).

My problem is this: having understood a great deal, and having accepted a great deal, I don’t think I have any emotional acceptance of it - I have a lack of any sense of feeling. I don’t feel that God is watching me, and has concern for me. I don’t feel that sin is eroding my life, even though I understand that it is. I read on CAF about people who experience the Real Presence at Mass, for example - I find it difficult to comprehend and, if I’m entirely honest, my inability to grasp what they’re describing is very saddening for me.

My diocese runs an RCIA programme. Would it be wrong to undertake the programme without having the faith I think is essential? Is faith something that develops and strengthens as one progresses through the RCIA, and is part-and-parcel of what it sets out to accomplish? Or is it simply dishonest to begin it before one is sure?

I’m sorry I can’t explain this better - I’m hoping that someone who reads this has had a similar experience, and can understand what I’m driving at. I suppose I have an “intellectual faith” without having faith itself. Any thoughts and advice would be most welcome.
 
I suggest that you make an appointment at your local parish to see a priest. Tell him what you have posted on this site and discuss it with him. You will then be able to better make a decision about entering the RCIA program.
Even if you do enter the program and you hear what the church teaches, your conscience, not your head will tell you what is right for you.
All too often, we allow our intellect to interfere with the action of the Holy Ghost upon our spirit…all to the detriment to our happiness and of our souls.
 
As one who entered the Church some eighteen years ago, I can say that my faith has grown in the recent years. I have read widely about my faith, the Church, the catechism, and some of the Saints. This has enabled me to see the precepts of my faith more clearly.

I also studied the Sacraments, particularly the Eucharist and Reconciliation, and found that this has helped me immeasurably, especially confession. I now avail myself of the Sacrament of Reconciliation as often as I can. The grace received therein is wonderful beyond words. I truly believe that Christ is in the confessional with me and Father John. I feel his presence as strongly as that of the Priest.

I also believe beyond doubt that Christ is present in the Eucharist. What a blessing that is. I do believe but I do not understand fully the mystery involved when the bread and wine are changed into the body and blood of Christ.

My advice to you is to plunge into the RCIA process, read everything you can on the Church and her Sacraments, and let the Holy Spirit work through you to illuminate these mysteries for you. Ultimately, it comes down to faith, which will grow within you if you do the work that I have outlined.
 
Good advice from the other responders. Talk to you local priest, listen to your head and let your feelings follow through faith. I’ve always thought that the desire to participate in the Mass and the Catholic Church is a clear sign of God’s calling.

Here’s a short story that I hope helps you: My wife (before she was my wife) went through RCIA. Before that, I had asked her to come to Church with me while we were dating. I told her it was OK to go up in the communion line and recieve a blessing, but not the Eucharist. She hesitated and really was unsure about participating. When she got the blessing, she felt the Holy Spirit. She described it to me after Mass and asked about it and I tried my best to explain. She is now one of the most committed Catholics I know.

Anyway, I would suggest to you to do the same, participate in the Mass to the extent that you can. Cross your arms over your chest as you approah the Eucharist and recieve a blessing. Sometimes God waits for us to take the first step…

God Bless!
 
I My problem is this: having understood a great deal, and having accepted a great deal, I don’t think I have any emotional acceptance of it - I have a lack of any sense of feeling. I don’t feel that God is watching me, and has concern for me. I don’t feel that sin is eroding my life, even though I understand that it is. I read on CAF about people who experience the Real Presence at Mass, for example - I find it difficult to comprehend and, if I’m entirely honest, my inability to grasp what they’re describing is very saddening for me.

My diocese runs an RCIA programme. Would it be wrong to undertake the programme without having the faith I think is essential? Is faith something that develops and strengthens as one progresses through the RCIA, and is part-and-parcel of what it sets out to accomplish? Or is it simply dishonest to begin it before one is sure?

I’m sorry I can’t explain this better - I’m hoping that someone who reads this has had a similar experience, and can understand what I’m driving at. I suppose I have an “intellectual faith” without having faith itself. Any thoughts and advice would be most welcome.
you have indeed explained your situation very well, and showed deep perception of the process in which you have been engaged.

Yes it is most appropriate to embark on the RCIA journey, whose purpose is to awaken, kindle and grow your faith, not simply to affirm an already strong and mature faith. It is a conversion process for everyone who takes part, no matter where they start, where they are going, what detours they make along the way, or how long it takes.

Welcome home. do bear in mind an emotional experience is not a necessary component of conversion, although many people do have such feelings. A complete intellectual understanding and acceptance of each and every aspect of doctrine is also not a prerequisite, but the humility to accept and ask for more instruction as you need it is a requirement to receive the Holy Spirit. He cannot act except in a soul who is docile and accepting of his action.
 
I’m sorry I can’t explain this better - I’m hoping that someone who reads this has had a similar experience, and can understand what I’m driving at. I suppose I have an “intellectual faith” without having faith itself. Any thoughts and advice would be most welcome.
Hello, yes, I’ve experienced similar. I am a convert from atheism, coming in with the same conclusions you have.

At that time I had been going to Mass every Sunday for a couple of months. It was intriguing at first to watch people who had faith, but as time went by, I started to get really anxious over the fact that other people had faith and I did not. So I set out to see if I could find faith.

I started RCIA with no intention of converting, I just wanted to understand what Catholics believed. Our RCIA director encouraged me to pray, another person in RCIA gave me a Bible (I didn’t have one), and from there, I continued going to Mass every week, went to RCIA every Thursday, read the Bible, and tried to pray.

So yeah, I know the struggle. Prayer is important to the journey you are on. You can take what you have explained in your post to God. Pray, even if it seems awkward. I don’t know how you are with praying, but for me at the time, it was the most difficult struggle of all. I came to like the prayer website, sacredspace.ie. It walks you through a prayer, a different one for every day.

Long story made short, I found that faith is a gift from God, because it is by no means something I am able to generate on my own. God knows you are seeking, and it is the Holy Spirit who searches out hearts like yours. It can be a struggle, at times I was sure I must have some kind of soul that doesn’t know how to recognized its own maker. Don’t give up, and I found it helps to keep a journal. I’d write out my struggles, the things I learned or heard in relationship to them, my questions and over time, I could see how God was leading me through them.

Hope that helps.

Rebecca
 
Yes, join RCIA and also try to become active in the parish once you join. Give God a chance to interact with you through others. Being a Catholic is being a part of the Body of Christ - the Church. You don’t have to (and you aren’t supposed to) do it all by yourself.

Welcome home!

Gem
 
The old Baltimore Catechism had a classic question;
Q. Why did God create you?
A. To know him, to love him, to serve him, and to be happy with him forever in Heaven.

Notice that these 4 things are in a precise order. You want to love God, but you don’t know him very well yet. That is like trying to fall in love with a person you don’t really know. It never works out well. As you learn more about how wonderful he is and how much he loves you, your love will grow automatically!

Read as much as you can, listen to Catholic Answers, take the RCIA course. You don’t have to join the Church just because you take the course. You can take it multiple times if you want.

Be patient. Discernment takes time. Don’t rush it!
 
I agree with many of the above. You should contact a local priest, explain just what you did here and start RCIA. Also, say a prayer. “Lord, reveal to me Yourself and help not only my head but my heart to know You.”

My prayers for you on your journey of faith,
mlz
 
Welcome to the journey.

Other posters have all given you excellent advice. Do go to RCIA - it is designed for people like you who have questions and are unsure of their faith. There will be no pressure to convert.

I entered the Church this past Easter having been a nominal Protestant for 35 years. I say “nominal” because like where you are today my faith, such as it was, was more an intellectual understanding, rather than the emotional faith you are seeking.

For me, the thing that changed my life was the Rosary. I had a particular crisis in my life before I even thought about becoming Catholic. What I now know was the urging of the Holy Spirit made me, in a desparate moment, try reciting the Rosary in order to ask for Our Lady’s help. Slowly, but surely, over the weeks I would receive assurances, mostly in the form of a peace I can’t explain, whenever I recited the Rosary. The Blessed Virgin, through her Rosary, pointed me to her Son. As she said about Him at the wedding feast at Cana “Do whatever he tells you” (see John 2:5). He pointed me to the truth and to the Church he founded, the Catholic Church. It was at that point I knew I had to become Catholic.

You have the intellectual understanding; now try going to Him prayer, such as the Rosary, and ask Him to open your heart to Him. Slowly, but surely, it will happen.

Yours in Christ,
 
It seems that the main suggestion given is that I should pray (thank you RebeccaJ for the link to Sacred Space, this seems like a most useful site!), and also to contact my parish priest and talk through matters with him and seriously consider the RCIA. I was told some time ago that faith is a gift from God and that He will know what I need; I see that thought’s echoed by several repliers in this thread. I suppose that, if I need a starting point for faith, I should have faith in that!

My sincerest thanks to everyone, for your kind advice and prayers.
 
I suggest you have a look at this blog:

conversiondiary.com/

The author was an atheist until a few years ago and her journey to faith was mostly (if not completely) intellectual. I think you will be able to relate to her experience and appreciate her learning and growing in faith.

Emotions are not the most important thing, although they are nice. When they are present if feels like God is really giving us a gift. But it is not healthy to build faith upon them. So nothing to worry about at this point.

Best of luck on your journey. I hope you will find CAF helpful. People are always happy to answer questions and help the newbies. God bless.
 
Madeleine Delbrel and Edith Stein are two Catholics who converted from atheism. I recommend getting to know them. 🙂
 
Thank You, Contra Mundum - that’s exactly the kind of site I need (and the lady who writes it has links to several atheist-to-Catholic books on Amazon)!

And I’m embarrassed to admit, RebeccaJ, that I’d never heard of Madeleine Delbrel and Edith Stein until your post. I think I’m starting to get at the idea that I’m not the first person to go through whatever it is I’m going through!
 
Thank You, Contra Mundum - that’s exactly the kind of site I need (and the lady who writes it has links to several atheist-to-Catholic books on Amazon)!

And I’m embarrassed to admit, RebeccaJ, that I’d never heard of Madeleine Delbrel and Edith Stein until your post. I think I’m starting to get at the idea that I’m not the first person to go through whatever it is I’m going through!
No need to be embarrassed.

“…our Christian life is a pathway between two abysses. One is the measurable abyss of the world’s rejections of God. The other is the unfathomable abyss of the mysteries of God. We will come to see that we are walking the adjoining line where these two abysses intersect.” (Madeleine Dubrel)
 
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