need some clarification please

[angell1]

do these constitute as liturgical abuses?

receiving communion on the hand and standing. no one can seem to agree on this. this is how I was taught but is it actually allowed? and I don’t really get why people think it’s disrespectful, no part of our body is worthy to touch Christ anyways

blessing for noncommunicants. my pastor, who I thik is very faithful to the church, allows this. i 've heard it’s discouraged but is is actually forbidden?

women in the foot washing ceremony. as far as i know, many parishes allow this. apparently, technically, the rubrick’s do not allow this. are the pastors just being disobedient then? i know pope francis does it but just because he does it doen’st necessarily mean the rules have changed. i wish this would be clarified because i think it causes a lot of confusion.

are the pastors that do these things in mortal sin because they disobey the church? and are these actually abuses? thanks

 

[Phemie]

do these constitute as liturgical abuses?

receiving communion on the hand and standing. no one can seem to agree on this. this is how I was taught but is it actually allowed? and I don’t really get why people think it’s disrespectful, no part of our body is worthy to touch Christ anyways
It’s only an abuse in the places where it’s not allowed. In Canada and the US it’s allowed. Receiving on the tongue is allowed everywhere.

blessing for noncommunicants. my pastor, who I thik is very faithful to the church, allows this. i 've heard it’s discouraged but is is actually forbidden?
Rome has cited documents that forbid it but is studying the matter. For now don’t fret unless EMHCs are doing it.

women in the foot washing ceremony. as far as i know, many parishes allow this. apparently, technically, the rubrick’s do not allow this. are the pastors just being disobedient then? i know pope francis does it but just because he does it doen’st necessarily mean the rules have changed. i wish this would be clarified because i think it causes a lot of confusion.

If and when Pope Francis changes the rules it will be allowed. For now, it isn’t. Not much we can do about priests who insist on making this about inclusion rather than about the priesthood.

Are the pastors that do these things in mortal sin because they disobey the church? and are these actually abuses? thanks

We should never presume to pronounce some to be in Mortal sin. We do not know the state of their conscience or what their bishop, to whom they have promised obedience, wants.

 

[Gorgias]

angell1:

blessing for noncommunicants. my pastor, who I thik is very faithful to the church, allows this. i 've heard it’s discouraged but is is actually forbidden?

Rome has cited documents that forbid it but is studying the matter. For now don’t fret unless EMHCs are doing it.

Can you provide citations to these documents?

Thanks!

 

[Linusthe2nd]

do these constitute as liturgical abuses?

receiving communion on the hand and standing. no one can seem to agree on this. this is how I was taught but is it actually allowed? and I don’t really get why people think it’s disrespectful, no part of our body is worthy to touch Christ anyways

Perfectly fine.

Nothing wrong here.

women in the foot washing ceremony. as far as i know, many parishes allow this. apparently, technically, the rubrick’s do not allow this. are the pastors just being disobedient then? i know pope francis does it but just because he does it doen’st necessarily mean the rules have changed. i wish this would be clarified because i think it causes a lot of confusion.

If it were wrong the Bishops would put an end to it. Since they have allowed it one must presume they have given tacit concent. So, don’t worry about all these little things.

are the pastors that do these things in mortal sin because they disobey the church? and are these actually abuses? thanks

They are not abuses since the Bishops allow them. No they have committed no sin at all.

Linus2nd

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[Phemie]

Can you provide citations to these documents?

Thanks!

While this letter itself does not have the force of law, the documents it cites certainly do.
adoremus.org/0209CDW_Blessing.html