Need some help on a "Traditional" Parish nearby - I'm confused

[JRKH]

Just out of curiosity, in the website’s photo album they have some photos of a Mass being said by a Bishop. As they aren’t affiliated with the SSPX that I know of, who is the Bishop pictured?

The Bishop is probably Bishop Dolan (assuming the elevation was in any way licit:shrug
From my OP:
In 1991, Bishop Moises Carmona, head of the Mexican traditionalist organization Trento, asked the 12 CMRI priests to elect one of the number to receive episcopal consecration. Bishop Carmona, a respected pastor and former seminary professor in Acapulco, had himself been consecrated a bishop in 1981 by Archbishop P.M. Ngô-dinh-Thuc, former Archbishop of Hué, Viet Nam.

The CMRI fathers selected Fr. Mark A. Pivarunas, whom Bishop Carmona then duly consecrated.

In 1992 Bp. Pivarunas, with a view towards assisting clergy formerly belonging to SSPX, asked Fr. Dolan to receive episcopal consecration. After considerable hesitation, Fr. Dolan agreed in mid-1993.

Peace
James

 

[AlphaOmega]

OK - Now I’m confused even more.
Their mass is valid???
By who’s definition???
They don’t recognize Rome, does Rome recognize them??

Peace
James

Yes, their mass is valid, because they retained all the rites of Ordination and Consecration prior to 1968 changes. Rome does not recognize them as having full communion, but perhaps partial communion due to their valid sacraments.

 

[JRKH]

Yes, their mass is valid, because they retained all the rites of Ordination and Consecration prior to 1968 changes. Rome does not recognize them as having full communion, but perhaps partial communion due to their valid sacraments.

I am assuming though that, a catholic may not attend such a parish so long as a “full communion” parish/mass is available. Is that correct?

Peace
James

 

[AlphaOmega]

I am assuming though that, a catholic may not attend such a parish so long as a “full communion” parish/mass is available. Is that correct?

Peace
James

To the contrary no. As far as I know, the teachings on ecumenism, permit Catholics to attend such services, without receiving. That is what my perception is, because it is not just other Catholic services you can attend to, but any other Christian services as long as you don’t receive their Communion. I don’t recommend going to anything that is not Catholic.

 

[puzzleannie]

Here is what I base my answer on, and I didn’t read anything on the site except the first 4 paragraphs of the article.

traditionalmass.org/images/articles/B16inCanon.pdf

If calling H.H. a heretic and therefore not our pope doesn’t convince you, I don’t see how a phone call will.

well if you simply call the diocese you don’t have to wade through websites and make your own judgment. If the bishop doesn’t convince you I don’t see how a website will.

 

[AdvanceAlways]

STAY AWAY! Removing the sede factor, that whole parish is embroiled with a rather sticky scandal right now involving Bp. Dolan and other individuals. I won’t link to a sede forum, but a quick search on google should point you toward it…

 

[JRKH]

To the contrary no. As far as I know, the teachings on ecumenism, permit Catholics to attend such services, without receiving. That is what my perception is, because it is not just other Catholic services you can attend to, but any other Christian services as long as you don’t receive their Communion. I don’t recommend going to anything that is not Catholic.

Yes but what I was refering to was the Sunday obligation. I apologize for not being clear on this.
Attending such a parish would not fulfill the Sunday obligation if there is another parish nearby that is in full communion with Rome.

Peace
James