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Iāve just found a very, very strange website:
romancatholicism.org/
I think itās some kind of āneo-Jansenistā group. They say theyāre Roman Catholic.
They say that the Jansenists represent Augustineās true theory about Grace, Free Will and Sin, and that the anti-Jansenist popes were heretics. They say that the Patristic Church was Jansenist and it became corrupted because the Scholastics supposedly adopted Semi-Pelagianism (a heresy). They say that the āLimbo of the Enfantsā is a āPelagian fableā and the unbaptized infants suffer the fire of Hell.
See:
romancatholicism.org/jansenism/papal-heresy-jansenists.html
romancatholicism.org/augustine-notes.html
romancatholicism.org/jansenism/limbo-pelagianism.html
Some quotes:
"Unbaptized Infants Suffer Fire and Limbo is a Heretical Pelagian Fable
In past centuries, the Roman Catholic Church approved, with the highest authority, the teaching of St. Augustine on the fate in hell fire of infants who die without baptism. Augustine drew upon the Bible to maintain against the British monk Pelagius and his camp in the fifth century the following points of doctrine.
o That infants who die without baptism have the penalty of fire in hell with the devil;
o That there is no place anywhere, in heaven, hell or anywhere else, where unbaptized infants have rest and happiness.
Since that time it has been a part of the Pelagian heresy to deny that doctrine.
The teaching of St. Augustine on the fate of unbaptized infants was codified at the XVI Council of Carthage in 418, the Council of Lyons II in 1274, and at the Council of Florence in 1438-1445. The teaching of these councils is considered to be infallible by Catholic theologians because of the degree of authority given to them by popes. However, medieval Scholastics departed from the doctrine and revived the Limbo heresy of the Pelagians; Rome would now admit unbaptized infants to heaven in the universal salvation of all people."
"The XVI Council of Carthage (418) condemned the Pelagian fable that there is some place anywhere where infants who died without baptism live in happiness (Limbo).
The Council taught the Catholic doctrine that infants go into the fire to be eternally punished with the devil, being on the left hand at the judgement.
The teaching of Carthage was infallibly approved as a rule of the Faith by Pope Zosimus and Pope Innocent I and by the ecumenical councils, which were approved by other popes."
"The heresy of Pius V
Pius V condemned in Ex Omnibus Afflictionibus (1567) various Augustinian propositions advanced by Michael Bajus that had been infallibly approved by popes of the patristic Church.
Pope Boniface II approved the Second Council of Orange (529) as a rule of faith for the Church and its canons are grudgingly admitted by Catholic theologians to be infallible definitions of the doctrine of the faith, though few would honestly own its teaching.
Pope Pius XI: āIt is a further tribute to the glory of the Bishop of Hippo [Augustine], that more than once the Fathers in lawful Councils assembled, made use of his very words in defining Catholic truth. In illustration it is enough to cite the Second Council of Orangeā. (Ad Salutem)
Approved in early Church
āNo one has anything of his own but lying and sin. But if man has any truth and justice it is from that fountain. ā¦] Without God man can do no good.ā (Orange II 22, 20)
āWorldly desire creates the fortitude of the Gentiles, but the charity of God, which is diffused in our hearts, not by free will, which is from us, but by the Holy Spirit, which is given to us produces the fortitude of the Christians.ā (Orange II, 17)
Condemned in Bajus
āFree will, without the help of Godās grace, has power only for sin.ā (Ex Omnibus 27)
āAll love of a rational creature is either vicious cupidity by which the world is loved, which is prohibited by John; or that praiseworthy charity by which āwhen poured forth by the Spiritā, God is loved.ā (Ex Omnibus 38)"
Iāve just found a very, very strange website:
romancatholicism.org/
I think itās some kind of āneo-Jansenistā group. They say theyāre Roman Catholic.
They say that the Jansenists represent Augustineās true theory about Grace, Free Will and Sin, and that the anti-Jansenist popes were heretics. They say that the Patristic Church was Jansenist and it became corrupted because the Scholastics supposedly adopted Semi-Pelagianism (a heresy). They say that the āLimbo of the Enfantsā is a āPelagian fableā and the unbaptized infants suffer the fire of Hell.
See:
romancatholicism.org/jansenism/papal-heresy-jansenists.html
romancatholicism.org/augustine-notes.html
romancatholicism.org/jansenism/limbo-pelagianism.html
Some quotes:
"Unbaptized Infants Suffer Fire and Limbo is a Heretical Pelagian Fable
In past centuries, the Roman Catholic Church approved, with the highest authority, the teaching of St. Augustine on the fate in hell fire of infants who die without baptism. Augustine drew upon the Bible to maintain against the British monk Pelagius and his camp in the fifth century the following points of doctrine.
o That infants who die without baptism have the penalty of fire in hell with the devil;
o That there is no place anywhere, in heaven, hell or anywhere else, where unbaptized infants have rest and happiness.
Since that time it has been a part of the Pelagian heresy to deny that doctrine.
The teaching of St. Augustine on the fate of unbaptized infants was codified at the XVI Council of Carthage in 418, the Council of Lyons II in 1274, and at the Council of Florence in 1438-1445. The teaching of these councils is considered to be infallible by Catholic theologians because of the degree of authority given to them by popes. However, medieval Scholastics departed from the doctrine and revived the Limbo heresy of the Pelagians; Rome would now admit unbaptized infants to heaven in the universal salvation of all people."
"The XVI Council of Carthage (418) condemned the Pelagian fable that there is some place anywhere where infants who died without baptism live in happiness (Limbo).
The Council taught the Catholic doctrine that infants go into the fire to be eternally punished with the devil, being on the left hand at the judgement.
The teaching of Carthage was infallibly approved as a rule of the Faith by Pope Zosimus and Pope Innocent I and by the ecumenical councils, which were approved by other popes."
"The heresy of Pius V
Pius V condemned in Ex Omnibus Afflictionibus (1567) various Augustinian propositions advanced by Michael Bajus that had been infallibly approved by popes of the patristic Church.
Pope Boniface II approved the Second Council of Orange (529) as a rule of faith for the Church and its canons are grudgingly admitted by Catholic theologians to be infallible definitions of the doctrine of the faith, though few would honestly own its teaching.
Pope Pius XI: āIt is a further tribute to the glory of the Bishop of Hippo [Augustine], that more than once the Fathers in lawful Councils assembled, made use of his very words in defining Catholic truth. In illustration it is enough to cite the Second Council of Orangeā. (Ad Salutem)
Approved in early Church
āNo one has anything of his own but lying and sin. But if man has any truth and justice it is from that fountain. ā¦] Without God man can do no good.ā (Orange II 22, 20)
āWorldly desire creates the fortitude of the Gentiles, but the charity of God, which is diffused in our hearts, not by free will, which is from us, but by the Holy Spirit, which is given to us produces the fortitude of the Christians.ā (Orange II, 17)
Condemned in Bajus
āFree will, without the help of Godās grace, has power only for sin.ā (Ex Omnibus 27)
āAll love of a rational creature is either vicious cupidity by which the world is loved, which is prohibited by John; or that praiseworthy charity by which āwhen poured forth by the Spiritā, God is loved.ā (Ex Omnibus 38)"
