Neutering animals

[severus68]

I have had two cats who had abortions during the spaying procedure. I didn’t have to see the kittens, but the vet showed them to my friend. One cat was pretty far along and the risk was very high, but she made it.

I had very little money when these events happened.
That is where I see the similarity in a human having an abortion-- they have no money and see no way to care for the baby.
It was hard for me, so imagine what a young woman would feel.

My kitties are adopted strays and fixed right away.

As for animals not having souls, I do not know where that comes from. God told us to have dominon over the animals, which means we have to take care of them.

My cats are my only family. Why would God allow me to enter heaven and leave them behind? Why would he create them and not let them into heaven as companions to us?

There is SO MUCH we DON’T know about animals! We are constantly finding out they are more intelligent than what was once believed.

They now know that “fish feel pain” and didn’t think so before because fish are silent and have no facial muscles! So they can’t scream, doesn’t mean they don’t feel.

I think we are so human-centric (is that a word?) that we want to eat them, so we justify it by saying they don’t have souls or feel pain.

I eat meat, but since they are showing some video of the chickens who are laying the Salmonella eggs and the horrible conditions they live in, I am reconsidering that.

As for cats not “sinning”. I’m not so sure…one of mine is pretty “bad.”

You did the best you can and because God’s compassion and love for all his creatures, I know we will see our pets in heaven.

I believe it was St Thomas Acquinas who said animals do not have immortal souls. I know many Catholics who believe animals go to heaven nontheless.

Being made in God’s image does not make us perfect. We have to earn the pivilege given to us. We are the sinners not animals who have had to suffer the consequence of our sin.

 

[SoDakTim]

We have a small colony of feral cats living in our backyard. We have decided to use TNR (trap, neuter, release) to keep their population from growing. So far we have trapped and neutered three cats – one young female that we plan to release and two kittens that we want to tame and keep as indoor house cats – and have three more to TNR (two males and a mama cat).

As a wildlife manager and all around pet & animal lover, I believeTNR (trap, neuter, release) is one of the most irresponsible things people can do to pets. If you are going to capture, nueter and find homes for feral cats - that’s great! But to release a domestic animal into the wild to fend for itself is cruel, irresponsible, uncompassionate and not being a very good steward of the creatures God entrusted us with.

• Feral cats are domestic animals, not wild animals. There is a big difference They need human care for their proper well being. Most feral cats die an agonizing death from predation, starvation, hit by cars, disease from lack of veterinary care, competition with other cats, etc.
• They can harbor and spread disease from a feral population to our domestic populations.
• They are efficient predators of our native songbirds and other wildlife.

We domesticated these animals. We either need to take care of them or euthanize them. But just throwing them to the wolves (making them fend for themselves) is cruel.

Just my $.02

 

[Bonnie]

As a wildlife manager and all around pet & animal lover, I believe TNR (trap, neuter, release) is one of the most irresponsible things people can do to pets. If you are going to capture, neuter and find homes for feral cats - that’s great! But to release a domestic animal into the wild to fend for itself is cruel, irresponsible, uncompassionate and not being a very good steward of the creatures God entrusted us with.

Just my $.02

I’ll see your 2 cents & raise (or whatever - I’m not a poker player! )

That’s the only disagreement I have with the cat clinic I volunteer with. Most of the cats belong to people, but some are feral. The feral kittens usually find homes, but the adults are marked (clipping an ear) & released. I feel sorry for the adult feral cats. I feed the ones that show up here, but they always disappear. Coyotes probably. We’ve lost a few pets the same way.

 

[Tamsulosin]

I agree completely SoDakTim regarding feral cats.
Now re other God created creatures,namely insects in the house.
My husband picks any creature witha cup and puts it in the garden.
I have been stepping on spiders and the like I find in the home, mostly out of fear.
But I feel guilty.What do you think is the appropriate behaviour re insects and or pests(ants,bugs, etc?)

 

[Middleman]

We have a small colony of feral cats living in our backyard. We have decided to use TNR (trap, neuter, release) to keep their population from growing. So far we have trapped and neutered three cats – one young female that we plan to release and two kittens that we want to tame and keep as indoor house cats – and have three more to TNR (two males and a mama cat). The low-cost clinic where we take the cats has the following on their price list: “There are additional fees for pregnant females.” We assume this means they will abort the unborn kittens in the process of spaying the mother. We would rather pay to have each of the kittens spayed / neutered after they’re born (and adopt them out) than to have them aborted.

1. It’s not a sin to spay / neuter an animal, is it?
2. If it’s not a sin to neuter and animal, would it be a sin to allow a pregnant female to be spayed knowing the unborn animals will be aborted in the process?

Are you a vegetarian, then? Do you oppose any killing of animals?

 

[Phyllis_Mary]

For accurate information on feral cats, please go to www.alleycat.org

Feral cats, although a domestic animal, are afraid of humans and are not adoptable. There is no happy little kitty farm for feral cats. Their home is outdoors where they have adapted. Because the cats that are neutered are also vaccinated, they are not causing disease to other animals. They are actually healthier than many owned pets. There is no higher rate of disease in feral cats than in owned cats. TNR cats are not adding to the population because they are no longer breeding. There is no evidence that feral cats live sad, pathetic lives. The ones I know that have been TNR’d live long, healthy lives. We have a colony of cats that has been around for over 12 years and they are fine. If feral cats are removed from an area, new unsterilized cats just move in and begin to breed to take over the territory.

Yes, in an ideal world, all cats would be living indoors and sleeping on your bed but this is just not feasible. Feral cats can kill birds but know what else kills birds? Cell phones – birds fly into the towers in the dark and are killed. Loss of habitat. Man keeps taking over their places to live and destroying the rain forests where birds go to migrate. Ready to stop development and get rid of your cell phones? No, I didn’t think so.

Most songbirds are killed by flying into glass windows. Once again, a man-made hazard.

People have been killing feral cats for decades and it’s not helping. Join the movement that proves it works and spay the stray!