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demerzel85
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Actually personally I’d prefer that there be a proper crucifix, since it is one the cross that Jesus became the bread that was broken for his Church.
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YachtsMan
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Yes there is.
The official ritual Holy Communion and Worship of the Eucharist Outside Mass has this to say:
In the chapter Exposition of the Holy Eucharist in section II Regulations for Exposition paragraph #85:
"For exposition of the blessed sacrament in the monstrance, f****our to six candles are lighted, as at the Mass, and incense is used. For exposition of the blessed sacrament in the ciborium, at least two candles should be lighted, and incense may be used.
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demerzel85
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Hmm…I remember that besides the Monstrance there also is another smaller thing used in the exposition of the Blessed Sacrament. The 2 look almost the same but the latter is just smaller. Anyone remember what that is called? And would it also be a 6 candle requirement for it?
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AJV
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The lunette (luna)?
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AJV
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Previously, the crucifix and relics used to covered when the sacrament was exposed. The logic being that crucifix reminded one of, or rather ‘represented’ (I can’t think of the correct word) Christ which was why bows were made to it during Mass, and when carried in procession, incense was used before it. Thus in the presence of the Sacrament Exposed, there was no need for it. Also, this is just a personal observation and opinion, but I’ve noticed that the crucifix when carved, often ‘competes’ with the monstrance for visual attention so perhaps you could consider a painting or something?
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demerzel85
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Hmm…can anyone cite references for the covering of the crucifix & relics when the Blessed Sacrament is exposed?
Personally I do not see how a Crucifix distracts. St Paul himself preaches a crucified Christ, and the sacrificial aspect of the Last Supper scene comes about through the crucifixion.
Personally I do not see how a Crucifix distracts. St Paul himself preaches a crucified Christ, and the sacrificial aspect of the Last Supper scene comes about through the crucifixion.
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AJV
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I will hunt up the exact references but you can find in the the Catholic Encyclopedia under the heads “Altar crucifix”, “Altar vessels” and “Forty Hours Devotion” citing the “Instructio Clementina”. I believe it is mentioned in Fortescue-O’Connell’s Ceremonies of the Roman Rite so perhaps someone with a copy can give you the exact reference.
I do not know whether these regulations are still in effect- I will check that too.
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Melanie01
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Sorry, what is an adoration room…I as a Catholic have never heard of one, if the Eucharist is to be reserve there I would call it a Chapel or Oratory.
how about some prieu dieus…
how about some prieu dieus…
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LilyM
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If its not in a Church building nor consecrated as a Church or Chapel one would assume it can’t be called a chapel or oratory
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demerzel85
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Well sometimes its called ‘Room’ instead since some of them can be pretty small.
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YachtsMan
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The luna holds the Blessed Sacrament, it is kept in a pyx and is mounted in monstrance for exposition. The entire monstrance, tabor and candle combination is called a ostensorium. Some people believe the Blessed Sacrament can be placed in a reliquary (looks like a small monstrance) but I’m not at all sure that is proper.
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YachtsMan
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Your retort is both rude and inaccurate, and it’s not the only one of this nature you have posted on this thread. You need to begin acting like a Christian before you post another such message.
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Christus_Rex
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I go to this same cathedral - the walls are merely painted in an elaborate design, and the canopy is made of wood. It looks more expensive than it actually would be.
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Christus_Rex
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Wreckovated is a little harsh… the cathedral has always been in the Plain English Gothic style, so not tooo highly decorated but what happened to the high altar was indeed terrible
however, we should thank God that the cathedral is still looking Catholic - statues, huge ornate crucifix, side altars, candles, etc. Now some jobs that were done in other places - they were wreckovations 
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AJV
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Looks very Pugin like. Was it built by him or one of his sons?
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demerzel85
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A reliquary should be for relics, but I remember on Luzar Vestments that they labelled some of the smaller Monstrances that the had as such.
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demerzel85
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Well I study right next to the Cathedral in my Diocese. Unfortunately it does not have an adoration chapel or room to practise Eucharistic Adoration in.Wreckovated is a little harsh… the cathedral has always been in the Plain English Gothic style, so not tooo highly decorated but what happened to the high altar was indeed terrible
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slyboots
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Lily M said:
"If its not in a Church building nor consecrated as a Church or Chapel one would assume it can’t be called a chapel or oratory "
And if it’s not in a Church what is the Body and Blood of the Lord doing there?
Adoration chapels are all consecrated , aren’t they?
So probably the word adoration “room” is incorrect. Don’t you think?
Our adoration chapel does not have an altar. There are stations on the wall, a pedestal with the tabenacle on it. Two (I know, I know) candles. Theres a relief of Christ as the Good shepherd. We have wooden chairs with kneelers. The confessionals are in this chapel. And behind the tabernacle there is a very large round window that faces the church so that the tabernacle can be seen from the church floor.
"If its not in a Church building nor consecrated as a Church or Chapel one would assume it can’t be called a chapel or oratory "
And if it’s not in a Church what is the Body and Blood of the Lord doing there?
Adoration chapels are all consecrated , aren’t they?
So probably the word adoration “room” is incorrect. Don’t you think?
Our adoration chapel does not have an altar. There are stations on the wall, a pedestal with the tabenacle on it. Two (I know, I know) candles. Theres a relief of Christ as the Good shepherd. We have wooden chairs with kneelers. The confessionals are in this chapel. And behind the tabernacle there is a very large round window that faces the church so that the tabernacle can be seen from the church floor.
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demerzel85
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Its in the Church compound but not in the Church itself. Being in a land scarce country the size our our most Churches are not big enough to accomodate a Chapel inside the Church and its most likely the older ones suffered from a ‘wrecknovation’. Usually the pactise is to have the Blessed Sacrament exposed in a specially designated permanent room in the Church Hall, hence many people calling it adoration room. None of these come any where near how Opus Dei has their oratory in a room setting, so I am thankful that the modernist do not have the audacity to claim it. I am not sure it it has to be consecrated though.
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