New American Bible (NAB) use of "highly favored one" vs. "full of grace"?

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why did the NAB, a Catholic translation, choose to use “highly favored one” instead of “full of grace”? i’ve read the differences of each in threads such as this one, or this one but my concern is, why did a Catholic translation use the one which doesn’t express as fully the importance of Our Lady?

who or what council approved of this and why?
 
I would like to know too! No one translation is perfect and we can benefit from multiple shades of meaning in different ones. “Highly favored” brings out the similarities to parallel prophetic passages in Zephaniah and Zechariah. Pope John Paul II said something like it is good to have this translation too, to bring out these links to the O.T. prophets - showing that Mary is the favored or chosen vigin daughter of Israel - who rejoices that the Lord (Jesus) is in her midst (within her womb).

That being said, it seems that it is a condecension to Protestant scholarship and an ill advised Marian minimalism for supposedly ecumenical reasons. Another example of this kind of thing is that you can find Catholic commentators who do not even mention the Marian interpretation of Rev. 12, even though P. Paul VI wrote Signum Magnum (the Great Sign) about Mary based on this verse and it just makes so much catholic common sense that it does refer to her in addion to the Church. Go get a Douay Rheims or an RSVCE Ignatious Study Bible if you want to be happy.

Gratia plena is in the Latin Vulgate and it is the official Bible of the Catholic Church. It translates very naturally and cleanly into English as “full of grace” so I have a hard time understanding why a Catholic Bible would choose “highly favored” which somewhat diminishes the nature of the grace given to Our Lady.
 
My NAT’s are buried underground.

I had to get rid of the heresy, lol.

Please get yourself an RSV-CE, or RSV-2CE, or DRB 🙂

I absolutely despise this translation of the Bible.
 
johnnydigit said:
why did the NAB, a Catholic translation, choose to use “highly favored one” instead of “full of grace”? i’ve read the differences of each in threads such as this one, or this one but my concern is, why did a Catholic translation use the one which doesn’t express as fully the importance of Our Lady?

who or what council approved of this and why?
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The Unitedly Stupid Council of Confused Bishops was the one’s that approved this I believe (USCCB)
 
Dr_M said:
The Unitedly Stupid Council of Confused Bishops was the one’s that approved this I believe (USCCB)
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Please do NOT insult the clergy. THANK YOU!

I think the NAB is sort of a “beginners Bible.” Could someone post some Amazon links to good “intermediate readin’ Bibles” that are Catholics Youth Bibles. I like the little commentaries added.
 
Sorry if you got offeneded by what I said, not intended to be taken seriously. (The sarcasm can’t be shown from here)…I just can’t believe the NAT was published under their watch. I am fully faitfhful to the Magisterium and the athourity of the Church.

www.drbo.org

or you can look on ewtn for the rsv version.
 
Dr_M said:
Sorry if you got offeneded by what I said, not intended to be taken seriously. (The sarcasm can’t be shown from here)…I just can’t believe the NAT was published under their watch. I am fully faitfhful to the Magisterium and the athourity of the Church.
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I know, I just can’t stand Catholics making fun of clergy or telling dirty jokes…it’s WRONG! Sorry if I implied anything.

Also, I didn’t mean I needed online Bibles. I just like the Catholc Youth Bibles in text. They look nice, have good side mini-commentaries. Right now I have the Catholic Youth Bible: New American Bible only so…Could someone link to better version of the Catholic Youth Bible?
 
The language in the NAB is hideous. I’m talking about the diction and style of the writing: it is deadly boring, and painfully plain. I know Catholics aren’t suppossed to read the King James Bible for theological reasons, but as far as beauty of language, there are many, many other translations–like King James-- that are an actual joy to read. The NAB, as a translation, is lame. Again, not the content, the actual word choice and style. So, so boring.
 
Michaeljc4 said:
The language in the NAB is hideous. I’m talking about the diction and style of the writing: it is deadly boring, and painfully plain. I know Catholics aren’t suppossed to read the King James Bible for theological reasons, but as far as beauty of language, there are many, many other translations–like King James-- that are an actual joy to read. The NAB, as a translation, is lame. Again, not the content, the actual word choice and style. So, so boring.
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So what’s the best Catholic Bible for “a joy to read”-iness?
 
johnnydigit said:
why did the NAB, a Catholic translation, choose to use “highly favored one” instead of “full of grace”? i’ve read the differences of each in threads such as this one, or this one but my concern is, why did a Catholic translation use the one which doesn’t express as fully the importance of Our Lady?

who or what council approved of this and why?
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The New Jerusalem Bible, also a Catholic translation, does not use full of grace either. The Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition does.
 
The NJB in French does, lol.

Yeah, hmmm, I haven’t seen an RSV-CE YB, there’s an NRSV-CE, but that Bible isn’t any better.

I like being able to read in Spanish, lol. It illimates all this worry about the translation 🙂
 
So what’s the best Catholic Bible for “a joy to read”-iness?
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I have to be honest: I tend to read the NIV. I’m not a theologian; I’m just a lay person, so I don’t have the ability or inclination to become incensed over translational minutiae. I also have a copy of the old Vulgate (about sixty years old) that was my grandfather’s a long, long time ago. I read that one, too. I have the BIG NAB Catholic Study Bible that has great study notes and background information.

I also read the Gospels in *The Message *not too long ago, which was fun. My thinking is that, since I don’t read Greek, any translation I read is going to be off slightly from the original.
 
I don’t like the NIV, it’s very anti-Catholic 😦

My favorite to read is the EP it’s in Spanish, but it’s far better than most of what I’ve read in englsih (except for the DRB)
 
I honestly wouldn’t be able to tell what is, or isn’t, anti-Catholic about it (unless it was blatantly obvious). I read it to understand the story Jesus. I mean, it’s all God’s word, right? Unless we can find the original Aramaic, we’ll never really know what, exactly, was said. Or so it seems to me.

Not trying to be polemic. :rolleyes:
 
Version. It is good for Interdenominational talks too, since traditional Students of the Bible use the RSV. Another of my favorite it the Confraternity Catholic Bible, and for using Research tools in English, the Millennium Edition (contains all the Old testament Books in bible, not just the Protestant ones), and has changed only the archaic words without changing the meaning. The Jerusalem Bible is good too. I don’t like the New American Bible, although it is the Official translation for the USA, endorsed by the USCCB, and used in the Liturgy…it is a poor translation and lacks in prose.
 
Example 1 Tess 2:15 the word traditons (parodisis, is translated as teaching, when it means traditoin)

It’s true that it’s all the word of God, but if you want Authentic Catholic Teaching, I suggest an RSV-2CE, as far as readability is concnerned. (Plus it has all the books. NIV’s only have 66 books)
 
Michaeljc4 said:
The NAB, as a translation, is lame. Again, not the content, the actual word choice and style. So, so boring.
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I have to say that the “content” of the NAB translation is not beyond reproach. I know you have expressed a certain “big picture” attitude of tolerance for the differences between translations. Nevertheless you may find the article linked in my sig interesting reading.

Here is my :twocents: :

Read the “great study notes and background information” in the NAB with both eyes wide open. In my opinion, some of it can be downright harmful to faith.

Throw away your NIV. Today.
 
Dr_M said:
The Unitedly Stupid Council of Confused Bishops was the one’s that approved this I believe (USCCB)
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Um…they are Bishops…dont insult them please!!! Fr. Corapi would not be happy…😉
 
So the best Catholic Youth Bible in accord with accuracy would be the New Revised Standard Version? I really like the Catholic Youth Bible, but I don’t want a transliterated Bible. The Bible I own now was a gift from Confirmation classes…😦
So the New Revised Standard Version?
 
mmmm thats interesting. I have NAB (study bible) which my parish’s priest told me to get for the bible study group.
 
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