New and Improved Translation of the Mass

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I hear there is a new and improved translation of the mass. Can anyone give me an example or two of what is changed? Will every church be adopting this?
 
mexilad said:
I hear there is a new and improved translation of the mass. Can anyone give me an example or two of what is changed?
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There are quite a few examples at usccb.org/romanmissal/. I think I’ve also seen a PDF somewhere that was the complete new translation. I’m not sure where to find it again, but someone else might know.
mexilad said:
Will every church be adopting this?
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Every parish that celebrates the Novus Ordo will have to.
 
Now it says “for you and for many,” rather than “for you and for all!” I am overjoyed! I never thought I would see this day!!! :D:extrahappy::dancing::clapping:
 
Word is either Lent or Advent of 2011. USCCB website should be monitored. Diocesan training sessions are being planned for this coming fall. (for priests)
 
ProVobis said:
Actually it’s already been introduced into South Africa and it wasn’t accepted well at all.
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Well, yes and no. It was mistakenly introduced in a few places in South Africa, and it didn’t go well because there was absolutely no catechesis for it whatsoever. People simply walked into church one day and the entire Mass was different with no explanation. That would shock anyone. In any case, similar things happened (actually, much worse) when the Mass went through the changes after Vatican II, so there are bound to be issues at first.
 
Rolltide said:
Well, yes and no. It was mistakenly introduced in a few places in South Africa, and it didn’t go well because there was absolutely no catechesis for it whatsoever. People simply walked into church one day and the entire Mass was different with no explanation. That would shock anyone. In any case, similar things happened (actually, much worse) when the Mass went through the changes after Vatican II, so there are bound to be issues at first.
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You’re right but people have been used to making more responses since the first changes. At the OF’s I attend you still have very spirited "And also with you"s throughout. That’ll be tough to change language that’s become second nature to you. No doubt some will be freaked out.
 
babochka said:
Yes, but when is this day? I keep hearing 2010, which has arrived. Is there an actual date for implementation?
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The complete translation has finally been accepted by all English speaking Conferences and submitted to Rome. It was done in many parts and while some parts have already been approved by Rome (i.e. the Ordinary of the Mass), others are still awaiting that approval. Once all the books are approved, the entire translation will be reviewed to make sure that prayers/sections that were part of two or three different ‘books’ are identically translated.
Once that is done, each national conference will be responsible for publishing its Roman Missal. That can take a while as we recently saw in Canada with the revision of our Lectionary: Rome approved in March 2008 and the CCCB had planned to implement the new Lectionary in Advent 2008. Glitches in the printing delayed implementation until Pentecost 2009.

Those involved in the translation are expecting Rome’s approval sometime this spring. Once that is done, the Missal has to be printed, distributed and catechesis has to be done. They expect that it will be implemented at the start of Advent 2011 (December 2011).
 
ProVobis said:
Actually it’s already been introduced into South Africa and it wasn’t accepted well at all.
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I think with the proper catechesis and a positive attitude on the part of priests and bishops this translation can be implemented smoothly.

OTOH, if priests make negative comments, as we are seeing in the US with the ‘wait’ movement, the people in the pews who have not been following this and looking forward to it for years (the majority, I suspect) will take their cue from them and react negatively to the entire process.
 
Phemie said:
OTOH, if priests make negative comments, as we are seeing in the US with the ‘wait’ movement, the people in the pews who have not been following this and looking forward to it for years (the majority, I suspect) will take their cue from them and react negatively to the entire process.
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Well, let’s not blame the priests now. Many of them are older and pretty much set in their ways. Forty years ago, it took a long time for some of them to begin saying Mass in English and many left the priesthood (I know a few ex-priests) because they couldn’t adapt to the changes or got to love the secular life more. Not that I expect too many to leave this time around, nevertheless I wouldn’t be surprised by the resistance of the priests and their congregation regulars to the change. And, don’t kid yourself, the changes are significant, especially to the elderly. And they are the ones (not the only ones, though) who go to Mass every day. Many of them will always prefer the status quo just because it is the status quo. So who are we, who attend once a week at the most, to tell them to get with it? Hardly pastoral.
 
From this:
Priest: This is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. Happy are those who are called to his supper.
All: Lord, I am not worthy to receive you, but only say the word and I shall be healed.

To this
Priest: Behold the Lamb of God,
behold him who takes away the sins of the world.
Blessed are those called to the supper of the Lamb.
And together with the people he adds once:
Lord, I am not worthy
that you should enter under my roof,
but only say the word
and my soul shall be healed.

PS: I witnessed one time that after “Lord I am not worthy to receive…”, they add “And I am already healed…etc…etc…”. I think that’s an abuse.
 
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