New book by Queen Elizabeth about her faith

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As a Canadian subject, I proudly say “God save the Queen”. My family always listens to the annual Christmas address. They’re usually quite good and always have Christian references.
 
twf said:
As a Canadian subject, I proudly say “God save the Queen”. My family always listens to the annual Christmas address. They’re usually quite good and always have Christian references.
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I say “God save the Queen” even as an American citizen. I just wish she had more power than she does. She’d set a lot of things right that need it, I’m sure. We don’t get her speeches here–they’re not considered relevant. :rolleyes: I have a lot of admiration for your queen. Appreciate her. We won’t see her like again, I’m afraid.
 
Della said:
I say “God save the Queen” even as an American citizen. I just wish she had more power than she does. She’d set a lot of things right that need it, I’m sure. We don’t get her speeches here–they’re not considered relevant. :rolleyes: I have a lot of admiration for your queen. Appreciate her. We won’t see her like again, I’m afraid.
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I agree.
 
Della said:
I say “God save the Queen” even as an American citizen. I just wish she had more power than she does. She’d set a lot of things right that need it, I’m sure. We don’t get her speeches here–they’re not considered relevant. :rolleyes: I have a lot of admiration for your queen. Appreciate her. We won’t see her like again, I’m afraid.
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Me as well.
 
Della said:
I say “God save the Queen” even as an American citizen. I just wish she had more power than she does. She’d set a lot of things right that need it, I’m sure. We don’t get her speeches here–they’re not considered relevant. :rolleyes: I have a lot of admiration for your queen. Appreciate her. We won’t see her like again, I’m afraid.
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The Prince of Wales is far better than he seems. Aside from his past unfaithfulness in marriage, he’s been consistently pro-Christian in the UK thus far. He is patron of the Prayer Book society, he has stayed at Orthodox monasteries on Mt. Athos (his father is, originally, a Greek prince), he has spoken out publicly against the persecution of Christians across the Middle East. The Catholic Herald has reported on this a bit recently - if I weren’t typing this on my phone I’d link you the articles. He’s pretty public about what he is: a Christian and a sinner. He’ll be a decent King in time.
 
Novocastrian said:
The Prince of Wales is far better than he seems. Aside from his past unfaithfulness in marriage, he’s been consistently pro-Christian in the UK thus far. He is patron of the Prayer Book society, he has stayed at Orthodox monasteries on Mt. Athos (his father is, originally, a Greek prince), he has spoken out publicly against the persecution of Christians across the Middle East. The Catholic Herald has reported on this a bit recently - if I weren’t typing this on my phone I’d link you the articles. He’s pretty public about what he is: a Christian and a sinner. He’ll be a decent King in time.
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I agree. He’s an intelligent, thoughtful, serious-minded person. But I think it would take someone very special to match the Queen’s level of service. Mind you, I’m no doubt biased. I can remember the day her father died, and I’ve admired her service ever since.
 
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I agree. He’s an intelligent, thoughtful, serious-minded person. But I think it would take someone very special to match the Queen’s level of service. Mind you, I’m no doubt biased. I can remember the day her father died, and I’ve admired her service ever since.
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She has been a great Queen and the title of this book seems to define her reign.

I was born in February of 1952 so I think she has been Queen practically my entire life!
 
Novocastrian said:
The Prince of Wales is far better than he seems. Aside from his past unfaithfulness in marriage, he’s been consistently pro-Christian in the UK thus far. He is patron of the Prayer Book society, he has stayed at Orthodox monasteries on Mt. Athos (his father is, originally, a Greek prince), he has spoken out publicly against the persecution of Christians across the Middle East. The Catholic Herald has reported on this a bit recently - if I weren’t typing this on my phone I’d link you the articles. He’s pretty public about what he is: a Christian and a sinner. He’ll be a decent King in time.
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I meant no disparagement against the Prince of Wales. He and I were born the same year, so I’ve “grown up” with him, as it were. He went through some pretty odd times when he seemed to wander into la-la land, but as he’s matured, he’s become all that you describe, thanks be. 🙂

What I mean is Elizabeth has a mettle to her character that we rarely see in our day. She never went too far to the left, although I don’t agree with her saying gay marriage is all right, but then I believe she did so to placate the masses, something sovereigns sometimes have to do. Still, she’s got a spine, bless her. I truly admire her for that.
 
Yes, I know. 🙂 Still, it’s her government. She’s still the sovereign. The government business is conducted by the Prime Minister and the House of Commons and House of Lords, yes, but she still has a great (name removed by moderator)ut otherwise she’s have no more function than as a figurehead, but she’s more than that. She does have some powers, even if they are seriously curtailed from those of her early predecessors.
 
Della said:
Yes, I know. 🙂 Still, it’s her government. She’s still the sovereign. The government business is conducted by the Prime Minister and the House of Commons and House of Lords, yes, but she still has a great (name removed by moderator)ut otherwise she’s have no more function than as a figurehead, but she’s more than that. She does have some powers, even if they are seriously curtailed from those of her early predecessors.
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Fair enough. She certainly has influence. Her rights are, as Bagehot said, to be consulted, to encourage and to warn. Encouraging or warning too often would reduce the value of that currency, of course, but I have no idea (and nor does anyone apart from Mr Cameron and herself) whether she attempted to use that influence in the matter of same-sex marriage.

As to actual power in the state, I believe she still has that, whatever the political theorists might say. In extremis, if the democratic nature of the state were threatened, I think her intervention would be accepted by, for instance, the armed forces. But that would have to be very, very, very much a case of “in extremis”.

In a case like same-sex marriage, where the great majority of the British people were in favour of that change, where the position of the Church of England was safeguarded, and where the change would have no adverse effect on those who disliked it, I cannot imagine it would be appropriate for her to make any intervention, or indeed make any but the most gentle warning (in fact I have no idea what her personal view of the change was). But then who knows what went on between her and the Prime Minister in his weekly audiences?
 
It seems her alleged “support” for gay marriage was way overstated by those who wanted her to be explicitly for it. You’re right, Picky Picky, she never made such a statement–thank God! It was reported that she would sign a new Commonwealth charter, which states:

“We are implacably opposed to all forms of discrimination, whether rooted in gender, race, colour, creed, political belief or other grounds.”

Hardly a ringing endorsement of gay rights/marriage.
 
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