I will repeat: Rev. Spencer is just that, a reverend with an agenda.Sure there are Muslims who agree with him. Many of them. Osama for one agrees wholeheartedly with what the book says. Spencer btw has to take precautions as his life has been threatened. Guess who is doing the threatening? His book is quite factual. Unless you want to dump the hadiths.
Can you show us a mistake in his Muslim theology?Funny, there are no Muslims who agree with his take on their theology.
Who is more likely to be right about what Muslims believe? Muslims, or a Melkite reverend masquerading as a historian?
Sure.Can you show us a mistake in his Muslim theology?
Sunnis do not conceive of Islam as an organization dependent on a centralized leadership,
AndThe traditional view understands the role of politics in terms of what the Qur’an teaches. It indicates that prophets were sent to humans to teach them truths about God, ethics, ways to achieve prosperity in this world, and beatitude in the hereafter, and to warn about the consequences of injustice and sinfulness.9 A prophet who is called to preach in a stateless milieu has to assume a role of political leadership; this mantle fell on Moses, as it did to Muhammad (peace be upon both of them). Islamic tradition teaches that when this happens, the two roles are combined by accident; political leadership is not a necessary element of the prophetic mission.
Reverend Spencer again, is not undertaking a serious attempt to report Muslim theology. He is writing religious pieces consistent with his position as a Reverend.The upshot is, whether one likes it or not, the decision and discretion and right to declare war or jihâd for Muslims lie solely with the various authorities as represented today by the respective Muslim states - and not with any individual, even if he is a scholar or a soldier (and not just anyone is a soldier or a scholar) - in the same way that an authority (such as the qâdî in a court of law: mahkamah) is the only one with the right to excommunicate or declare someone an apostate [murtad]. Otherwise, the killing would be extra-judicial and unauthorized.
Ridiculous. Anti-Catholics use Catholic sources all the time–they just use them very badly. It’s incredible to me that you can’t see this.Or you on Catholicism? He uses Islamic sources that Muslims use. If he is wrong then so are they.
Don’t you hate it when someone outside your religion tries to tell you what your religion is about? Personally, it drives me crazy when a non-jew tries to teach me something about judaism (which hasn’t happened to me here). I own a copy of the Koran and have read just enough to know that I can’t come to any conclusions about Islam from just reading its holy book. Text is a springboard, I think. A starting point. Not a final explanation.Funny, there are no Muslims who agree with his take on their theology.
Who is more likely to be right about what Muslims believe? Muslims, or a Melkite reverend masquerading as a historian?
[SIGN][/SIGN]The truth about Mohammed is that he was a brutal killer who founded a religion of lies, deception and violence.
Philosophically? Theologically? Actually? No. Not exactly.[SIGN][/SIGN]
If that is the case, is their god our God???
Where did you get this from? show me a linkOn his website, he states: “In Islam, the person in charge of religious affairs is concerned with “power politics,” because Islam is “under obligation to gain power over other nations.””
Not that it makes a big difference if he is a “Reverend-Deacon”/“Reverend” but, where did you get this from (that Spencer is a “Reverend-Deacon”/“Reverend” in the Melkite Church)?The Reverend-Deacon Spencer is a polemicist with a religious agenda, not a historian.
He’s a Reverend in the Melkite Church
Hi pro_universal,… Who is more likely to be right about what Muslims believe? …
On his website, he states: “In Islam, the person in charge of religious affairs is concerned with “power politics,” because Islam is “under obligation to gain power over other nations.””
Not in those words, no. But Islam sure does contain commands of that nature. For example:In fact, Islam contains no such command.