New Catholic Cardinal: Catholics Can't Vote for Pro-Abortion Candidates

[juliee]

New Catholic Cardinal: Catholics Can’t Vote for Pro-Abortion Candidates

Washington, DC – The Catholic leader who Pope Benedict named a new cardinal said in a new interview that faithful Catholics can’t in good conscience vote for pro-abortion candidates.

LifeNews.com/nat-6799

 

[Mark77]

God Bless Soon to be Cardinal Burke & all the brave clergy who speak the Truth!!!

Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, Ora Pro Nobis Peccatoribus!

mark

 

[lutherlic]

Honestly, I try to understand how any Catholic can see this differently and I just don’t get it.

Life begins at conception. The human person exists beginning then. Taking innocent life is simply murder.

So, voting for a politician who will cast his/her votes (regardless of what they say they personally prefer) to facilitate abortion is nothing less than complicity in the clear and completely predictable outcome.

Social justice issues do not trump life issues (even if they were valid - they often are not).

God bless Cardinal-designate Raymond Burke.

 

[TheRealJuliane]

Don’t mean to be flip about this…but…
**
DUH!**

So glad a Bishop has the courage to stand up and SPEAK THE TRUTH!!! May God be with him.

 

[PetersKeys]

abortion is a non negotiable issue according to the Church. In all areas of life, including voting.

This is also why bipartisan voting is so difficult, because it forces many citizens to trump their beliefs if they wanna vote. There needs to be a larger selection of candidates so people can vote accordingly and fully to their conscious.

I myself have no voted for years because of the candidates who made the final elections were not proper in my eyes according to Christian morality. In the last election Ron Paul was the closest, in my opinion, to Catholic teachings, but due to the bipartisan system and the electoral college I could not vote for him.

 

[TheRealJuliane]

abortion is a non negotiable issue according to the Church. In all areas of life, including voting.

This is also why bipartisan voting is so difficult, because it forces many citizens to trump their beliefs if they wanna vote. There needs to be a larger selection of candidates so people can vote accordingly and fully to their conscious.

I myself have no voted for years because of the candidates who made the final elections were not proper in my eyes according to Christian morality. In the last election Ron Paul was the closest, in my opinion, to Catholic teachings, but due to the bipartisan system and the electoral college I could not vote for him.

Ron Paul is pro-abortion. How is that close to Catholic teachings?

 

[PetersKeys]

Ron Paul is pro-abortion. How is that close to Catholic teachings?

is that why he said?

*“I am strongly pro-life. I think one of the most disastrous rulings of this century was Roe versus Wade. I do believe in the slippery slope theory. I believe that if people are careless and casual about life at the beginning of life, we will be careless and casual about life at the end. Abortion leads to euthanasia. I believe that.”
*

“As an O.B. doctor of thirty years, and having delivered 4,000 babies, I can assure you life begins at conception. I am legally responsible for the unborn, no matter what I do, so there’s a legal life there. The unborn has inheritance rights, and if there’s an injury or a killing, there is a legal entity. There is no doubt about it.”

*There has to be a criminal penalty for the person that’s committing that crime. And I think that is the abortionist. As for the punishment, I don’t think that should be up to the president to decide.”*

For many years, Ron Paul has been speaking up for babies’ rights. He passionately defends those who cannot speak for themselves because they haven’t been born yet.

In order to “offset the effects of Roe v. Wade”, Paul voted in favor of the federal Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003. He has described partial birth abortion as a “barbaric procedure”.

that doesn’t sound like someone whos pro-abortion…

ummm. Have you even read about Ron Paul??

 

[anp1215]

God bless this cardinal who has the courage to speak the truth when so many do not!!!

 

[anp1215]

"Burke has taught repeatedly that Catholic politicians who support abortion rights may not receive Holy Communion and that Catholics who know of the politicians’ voting record on these issues cannot vote for them and retain “a clear conscience.”

Burke said in 2004 that presidential candidate John Kerry would not be allowed to receive communion at any church in St. Louis because of his staunch pro-abortion position."

AMEN!!!

 

[PetersKeys]

"Burke has taught repeatedly that Catholic politicians who support abortion rights may not receive Holy Communion and that Catholics who know of the politicians’ voting record on these issues cannot vote for them and retain “a clear conscience.”

Burke said in 2004 that presidential candidate John Kerry would not be allowed to receive communion at any church in St. Louis because of his staunch pro-abortion position."

AMEN!!!

yes, burke is one of the best bishops that could be admitted for cardinal I think in the US. Another great Bishop is Charles Chaput. Hopefully cardinal burke will be able to inform of the problems better that have been happening in the Church in America.

 

[TheRealJuliane]

is that why he said?

“I am strongly pro-life. I think one of the most disastrous rulings of this century was Roe versus Wade. I do believe in the slippery slope theory. I believe that if people are careless and casual about life at the beginning of life, we will be careless and casual about life at the end. Abortion leads to euthanasia. I believe that.”

“As an O.B. doctor of thirty years, and having delivered 4,000 babies, I can assure you life begins at conception. I am legally responsible for the unborn, no matter what I do, so there’s a legal life there. The unborn has inheritance rights, and if there’s an injury or a killing, there is a legal entity. There is no doubt about it.”

*There has to be a criminal penalty for the person that’s committing that crime. And I think that is the abortionist. As for the punishment, I don’t think that should be up to the president to decide.”*

For many years, Ron Paul has been speaking up for babies’ rights. He passionately defends those who cannot speak for themselves because they haven’t been born yet.

In order to “offset the effects of Roe v. Wade”, Paul voted in favor of the federal Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003. He has described partial birth abortion as a “barbaric procedure”.

that doesn’t sound like someone whos pro-abortion…

ummm. Have you even read about Ron Paul??

That amazes me, honestly. I do know him, he’s in my area. And he’s a Libertarian, although he runs as a Republican in order to get elected. Libertarians aren’t for telling anyone else what to do. When did this interview take place? Link? I will be happy to look into it. I do not respect Dr. Paul for anything else he is but I am willing to learn.

 

[TheRealJuliane]

Here is something I found, that documents the Libertarian Party’s position on these issues that are so important to Catholics.

Against Conservative Christian Policies: Libertarian Ron Paul campaigns as a Republican and many think he advocates conservative Christian policies, but Paul is a member of and remains on good terms with the Libertarian Party and he spoke at its 2004 national convention,13 14 15 16 17 and the Libertarian Party platform opposes traditional Judeo-Christian public policy.​

Immorality as Public Policy: Paul has never repudiated the Libertarian Party even though it is officially: pro-legalized abortion, pro-legalized pornography, pro-legalized adultery (which has led to epidemic and “no-fault” divorce), pro-legalizing crack cocaine, pro-legalized suicide, pro-legalized euthanasia, pro-legalizing prostitution, and the Libertarian Party not only promotes homosexuality (which undermines the truth that God made us male and female) but it is even against protecting marriage between a man and a woman which is the social institution that God established which is the very foundation of civil society.18​

Libertarian Humanism Omits God: Ron Paul’s Libertarian Party is based on a humanist rather than on a Judeo-Christian worldview and thus has misguided notions of governance and no compass for righteousness in law and so it does not know19 what The Declaration of Independence states, the fundamental truth that even a deist like Thomas Jefferson20 acknowledged, that people, "are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights [and] that among these are Life…"21​

Parents Can Kill Their Children: Paul’s Libertarian Party immorally declares in its official platform, "Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on all sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration."22 These libertarians would set back human rights to: “If you’re against the slave trade, then don’t trade one; if you’re against lynching… if you’re against… etc.” There are not “views on all sides,” but only two sides, those who recognize and those who deny a child’s inalienable right to life. And there is no “good-faith view” that permits the dismembering of unborn children. The Libertarian Party is officially a party of child killers which should be rebuked by anyone who knows that God has given each child a right to life.​

Paul Says States Don’t Have To Protect Children: Year after year Ron Paul authors and promotes legislation that says the states would have the option, but not the responsibility to protect children.23​

Paul Used by his Christian Supporters: The more truth a person knows, the more God holds him accountable for betraying it. As Jesus Christ said, “that servant who knew his master’s will, and did not… do according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he who did not know, yet committed things deserving of stripes, shall be beaten with few” (Luke 12:47-48a). A New Testament epistle adds, “to him who knows to do good and does not do it, to him it is sin” (James 4:17). Ron Paul’s pro-life supporters are using him for political sport against liberals and they seem to care nothing about his soul, for if they cared about Ron as a person, they would warn him that God says, “Rescue those who are unjustly sentenced to death; don’t stand back and let them die” (Proverbs 24:11, NLT). For the Lord also said about those who have greater understanding, including Ron Paul, “For everyone to whom much is given, from him much will be required” (Luke 12:48b).​

Paul’s Policy Condemned by his Own Words: What is worse, the apathy of the atheist, or the pastor, over the killing of Jews? Who had the greater sin, the pagan Pontius Pilate or the religious leader who delivered Christ to be judged (John 19:10-11)? When a liberatrian acknowledges that the baby in the womb is, in truth, a human person who should have legal rights, he then condemns his own claim that a state has the “right” to permit abortion. Ron Paul said, "I see the fetus as a human being that has legal rights… I deal with the abortion issue like I deal with all acts of violence… Our homes are our castles [but we don’t] have the right to murder our children… So, it’s very hard intellectually to distinguish between the killing of an infant a minute before birth, and a minute afterwards."24 In 2008 Paul rightly endorsed Michigan’s personhood amendment25. And in 2010, pro-life news outlet LifeSiteNews asked Ron Paul, “What is your take on the ‘personhood amendments’ being brought forward in a number of states as an attempt to overturn Roe v. Wade in those states?” Paul replied, "I think that is great. I think anything that emphasizes personhood and legal entity is good."26 His own words invalidate Paul’s claim that abortion is a states rights issue, because human rights trump states’ rights. Because Paul acknowledges the truth that a child is a person with human rights, he should be able to recognize that a state therefore cannot possess a “right” to allow the killing of that child. Rights do not conflict. It is never necessary to violate one person’s right to uphold anothers. The “states’ rights” argument for “legitimizing” systematic child killing in California or in any venue, is itself immoral.​

prolifeprofiles.com/ronpaul

 

[PetersKeys]

Here is something I found, that documents the Libertarian Party’s position on these issues that are so important to Catholics.

Against Conservative Christian Policies: Libertarian Ron Paul campaigns as a Republican and many think he advocates conservative Christian policies, but Paul is a member of and remains on good terms with the Libertarian Party and he spoke at its 2004 national convention,13 14 15 16 17 and the Libertarian Party platform opposes traditional Judeo-Christian public policy.​

prolifeprofiles.com/ronpaul

there are different subsets of libertarianism. There is left-libertarianism and there is right-libertarianism. Ron Paul is right-libertarianism, or as called the “Old right”. There is no official definition.

Paleoconservatives and paleolibertarians are often considered the successors and torchbearers of the Old Right view in the late 20th century and current era. Both of these groups often rally behind Old Right slogans such as “America First” while sharing similar views to the Old Right opposition to the New Deal. Recently, the ideas of the Old Right have seen a resurgence due to the presidential campaign of Ron Paul.

I don’t consider myself a libertarianism but I am definitely a paleo-conservative. They are the old-republicans, or the classic conservatives. Traditionalist Catholics during the early 20th century were mostly paleo-conservatives. Ron Paul himself is the closest candidate to the old conservatism during

Candidates such a Bush or McCain are neo-republicans. They do not exhibit the policies of the old conservatives.

US president Ronald Reagan, who was a self-declared conservative, is widely seen as a symbol of American conservatism. In an interview, he said* "I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism.*

Most Catholics however, who adhere to Church teachings would be classic or paleo-conservatives. Pat Buchanan is a good example of a paleo-conservative.

by the way libertarians has nothing to do with abortion as far as its legalization. It was 50/50 republican and democrat.