New community with the Spirit of the 1st Franciscans and 1st Carmelites..

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A couple of questions:
  1. Are these brothers and sisters (I speak of as a religious order, obviously) still in existence?
  2. Any “Third Order” members here in the USA?
 
Friar_P said:
Truth makes its own way …
nuke.poorfriars.net/HomeEnglish/HomeCONSECRATES/OFFICIALCURRICULUM/IndexBishopdeclarations/tabid/592/Default.aspx
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While Truth may make its own way the website linked does not help Truth proceed as all the documents are password protected.

I could set up a site and say that a linked document is from anyone and then password protect it (which all of them are at your linked website) and no one could check the validity of the claim on the website.

None of the links to documents there say exactly what bishops they are referring to and we can not verify their Truth as they are password protected.
 
You can join the site, for a short time…then they bounce you (or did)

Not sure if you could read the documents then, but I’ll bet they’re in Italian.
 
ByzCath said:
While Truth may make its own way the website linked does not help Truth proceed as all the documents are password protected.

I could set up a site and say that a linked document is from anyone and then password protect it (which all of them are at your linked website) and no one could check the validity of the claim on the website.

None of the links to documents there say exactly what bishops they are referring to and we can not verify their Truth as they are password protected.
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As the page say, you can request all these new Episcopal Documents (and passwords) through Ecclesial Authorities - to: vocazioni@fratipoveri.net

For the moment the community don’t reveal (in pubblic) were they are and who are the bishops that are following them for persecution motives; but, of course, if some Ecclesial Authorities ask the community, they’ll suddently answer …

In this movie you can see the Bishops and ear one Archbishops words about them:

b.vimeocdn.com/ts/113/314/113314666_200.jpg
 
Friar_P said:
As the page say, you can request all these new Episcopal Documents (and passwords) through Ecclesial Authorities - to: vocazioni@fratipoveri.net

For the moment the community don’t reveal (in pubblic) were they are and who are the bishops that are following them for persecution motives; but, of course, if some Ecclesial Authorities ask the community, they’ll suddently answer …

In this movie you can see the Bishops and ear one Archbishops words about them:

b.vimeocdn.com/ts/113/314/113314666_200.jpg
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I am no Ecclesial Authority so I assume that I would be denied the password.

So please stop posting this as proof if you only allow Ecclesial Authorities to look at it.

I believe that the Laity has a right to know where religious communities are approved to work.

That you wish to keep this secret raises a huge red flag, along with the found saying that he does not wish to be obedient to a bishop which goes against the charism of the Franciscans which you claim to follow. Two strikes, awaiting the third.
 
ByzCath said:
I am no Ecclesial Authority so I assume that I would be denied the password.

So please stop posting this as proof if you only allow Ecclesial Authorities to look at it.

I believe that the Laity has a right to know where religious communities are approved to work.

That you wish to keep this secret raises a huge red flag, along with the found saying that he does not wish to be obedient to a bishop which goes against the charism of the Franciscans which you claim to follow. Two strikes, awaiting the third.
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I am with ByzCath on this one as the “persecution” that you are claiming has nothing to do with your giving the name of your ecclesial authority - but your unwillingness to do this. One of the main three charisms of Franciscan living is obedience and the lack of an ecclesial authority shows a complete disregard for this.
 

From a member of the community of the
Little Friars and Sisters of Jesus and Mary​

Clarifications on our community of Little V.V.’s of Jesus and Mary, to avoid misunderstandings:

Peace and Good
After our transfer from central of Sicily (on the 5th March 2010),
we now share with you,
our last joy and Episcopal witnesses (Bishops),

and that is:

1. VIDEOS (where an ARCHBISHOP speaks of our reality that’s “in birth”, that testifies to our presence in 6 different dioceses of the world)
vimeo.com/18086249
2. PHOTO’S (with the diverse BISHOPS and ARCHBISHOPS who support us, after the aforesaid transfer)
nuke.poorfriars.net/HomeEnglish/HomeCONSECRATES/THEBISHOPS/tabid/478/Default.aspx
3. EPISCOPAL DOCUMENTS (WRITTEN, consultable with a certain ecclesiological norm)
nuke.poorfriars.net/HomeEnglish/HomeCONSECRATES/OFFICIALCURRICULUM/IndexBishopdeclarations/tabid/592/Default.aspx

Peace and Good and best wishes of Holiness
in a serene and continuous discernment
of the Truth, that is Christ in the Church.
(cf. Ep 3, 21)

PS
We ask you for prayer according to the intentions of our initiator, friar Volantino Verde.
 
Friar_P said:

From a member of the community of the
Little Friars and Sisters of Jesus and Mary​

Clarifications on our community of Little V.V.’s of Jesus and Mary, to avoid misunderstandings:

Peace and Good
After our transfer from central of Sicily (on the 5th March 2010),
we now share with you,
our last joy and Episcopal witnesses (Bishops),

and that is:

1. VIDEOS (where an ARCHBISHOP speaks of our reality that’s “in birth”, that testifies to our presence in 6 different dioceses of the world)
vimeo.com/18086249
2. PHOTO’S (with the diverse BISHOPS and ARCHBISHOPS who support us, after the aforesaid transfer)
nuke.poorfriars.net/HomeEnglish/HomeCONSECRATES/THEBISHOPS/tabid/478/Default.aspx
3. EPISCOPAL DOCUMENTS (WRITTEN, consultable with a certain ecclesiological norm)
nuke.poorfriars.net/HomeEnglish/HomeCONSECRATES/OFFICIALCURRICULUM/IndexBishopdeclarations/tabid/592/Default.aspx

Peace and Good and best wishes of Holiness
in a serene and continuous discernment
of the Truth, that is Christ in the Church.
(cf. Ep 3, 21)

PS
We ask you for prayer according to the intentions of our initiator, friar Volantino Verde.
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See your other thread for my comment.

I will pray that your community becomes more open to the laity and their requests of a list of bishops who approve of you.

Do not give me that link again of password protected doucments as it does not list any approvals from bishops and the document names are so vague as to not tell us anything.

When you chose to be more open and transparent I will reconsider my stand on your community but right now it is not a good one.
 
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