New GIRM Rules

[robertaf]

Greetings

You see, Bro! It all depends what side of the aisle you are coming from. Just read the posts and you will find folks who clasp their hands in front of them till the blood stops to keep from holding hands during the Our Father or shaking hands during the sign of Peace. I mean, this is a real issue with them.
Are they doing their own thing? Or are the only ones doing their own things are the ones not doing what you like?
It doesn’t matter at all what the GIRM says about Communion in the hand to some folks, *they don’t like it, *so it cannot be right.
For others, they can find ever argument in the world against the Charismatic Renewal, (if they don’t like it) and they do not give a hoot that the Holy Father and Holy Mother Church encourages it, they don’t like it so it is wrong.
Now here we are about standing, sitting or kneeling at parts of the Mass not specifically mentioned in the GIRM, and if I say I will stand during those times and you do not agree, I am making my own rules.
Lets at least be fair.

 

[Mysty101]

Now here we are about standing, sitting or kneeling at parts of the Mass not specifically mentioned in the GIRM, and if I say I will stand during those times and you do not agree, I am making my own rules.
Lets at least be fair.

Amen, If it is OK to petition for an option when none was specified in the law, it is certainly OK to take either option when both are included in the law.

 

[kmktexas]

why does the church allow the bishop to decide if we are to kneel after the agnus dei or not? why then but not after communion? i don’t get it. 90% of churches i go to kneel after the agnus dei, then you go to that one diocese who doesn’t and it seems weird. what’s the point of non-uniformity in this manner?

Oat Soda, I see that no one answered part of your question so I’d like to try.

When the new GIRM was being distributed, individual conferences of bishops were allowed to comment and ask for exceptions for national custom. In most parts of the world, the faithful kneel for the consecration only. That is what is directed in the Universal version of the GIRM. The US bishops wanted permission to have US parishes also kneel after the Agnes Dei since this is a longstanding US custom. Some bishops from dioceses near the Mexican border expressed concern regarding confusing their parishioners since Mexico only kneels for the congregation. So the compromise was to allow each bishop to decide if those in his diocese should kneel or stand after the Agnes Dei but that it should be diocese wide, not parish by parish. The default is to kneel in the US unless the bishop states to stand. This compromise position was submitted to the Vatican and approved.

This is all very rational - on paper. Then you have situations like NJ where 3 of the four Bishops said to kneel but one said to remain standing. Last I looked, NJ was not very close to the Mexican border.

 

[Little_Irish]

Thank you for your reply regarding what we can and cannot do. I believe there are a lot of voices out there. We saw the division in the Church during the election process when many saw the gravity of abortion as a sin and others just another issue. I believe the Church is divided and some would like to see it incrementally changed until it becomes *just another church. *We are the One, Holy, and Apostolic Church. What separates us from others is the Eucharist. Scripture tells us at the name of Jesus every knee shall bend, the least we can do in His presence is kneel.