New guide helps French Catholic-Muslim couples preparing to marry

[_Abyssinia]

PARIS (RNS) A day after Islamic extremists massacred 130 people in Paris last month, a Muslim-Catholic couple married in Lyon. It had to be a civil ceremony because the Muslim family refused to enter a church. Shocked by the attacks, some relatives even asked whether they should go ahead with the ceremony at all.

But they did — and the two families cautiously made contact with each other. By the end of the reception, the ice was broken and the first of many hurdles cleared.

“I told the couple their love had made this possible,” said the Rev. Vincent Feroldi, the Catholic priest who helped prepare the marriage. “This is the best testimony one can give the day after these attacks. They showed this horror will not win.”

religionnews.com/2015/12/10/new-guide-helps-french-catholic-muslim-couples-preparing-marry/

 

[Regina7]

“Love made this possible?”

What is “this”? A CIVIL (read: non- sacramental) marriage? And we are celebrating this because…?

 

[Boccherini]

Yes, I’d like to know too. What are we celebrating? The Muslim family is too bigoted to enter a church. Think about the influences the children will get from that side of the family.
I guess we’re celebrating how politically correct people will give into any Muslim demands.

 

[jinglebelle]

White people mmmm suck teeth at this point joke by Canadian comedienne.Is there nothing you people understand about Christ.

 

[Brendan]

“Love made this possible?”

What is “this”? A CIVIL (read: non- sacramental) marriage? And we are celebrating this because…?

It would still be a valid, Church recognized natural marriage. That requires a ‘dspensation of cult’ from the local bishop, but since they are working through a priest, that seems to have been done.

 

[Regina7]

It would still be a valid, Church recognized natural marriage. That requires a ‘dspensation of cult’ from the local bishop, but since they are working through a priest, that seems to have been done.

Yes, while it is true that it’s valid, it’s not sacramental. A justice of the peace cannot do that, and as the Muslim refuses to enter a Catholic Church, then the priest can’t as well. From what I understand, a bishop gives dispensation for a Catholic to marry in another Christisn church. This couple didn’t even marry in a church.

 

[Brendan]

Yes, while it is true that it’s valid, it’s not sacramental. A justice of the peace cannot do that, and as the Muslim refuses to enter a Catholic Church, then the priest can’t as well. .

It is only Sacramental if both parties are Baptized. If two baptized Protestants get married in front of a Justice of the Peace, it is Sacramental Marriage.

The Justice of the Peace, like a priest, is simply a witness to the Sacrament, they are not the ministers. It is neither the Justice of the Peace, nor the priest, who make a marriage sacramental, but the ontological status of the couple themselves.

And as far as the marriage not being Sacramental, neither was the marriage of Joseph and Mary. Joseph was never baptized.

From what I understand, a bishop gives dispensation for a Catholic to marry in another Christisn church. This couple didn’t even marry in a church

That would be called a 'Dispensation of Form", and it just what it says it is, a removal of the requirement to marry under the mandated Form of the Church. Once one is granted, the couple is no longer obligated to marry in a church, but can marry in a Protestant Church, a Synagogue, a Mosque or even a city park in front of a JoP.

And such a marriage would be fully recognized by the Church.

Note the various options on this form (no pun )
archgh.org/default/marriage-forms/form%20iii-B%20Revised%20Dispensation%20from%20Canonical%20Form%20and%20Report.pdf

Specifically this part

If there has been a dispensation from canonical form, ordinarily the marriage ceremony is celebrated in a non-Catholic church or oratory. In some exceptional circumstances (e.g. certain Catholic-Jewish marriages), it may be necessary that the dispensation be granted so that a civil ceremony may occur. A public form that is civilly recognized for the celebration of marriage is required.