New Gun Owners please get safety training

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Seems like there are a lot of new gun owners here on the Catholic Answers Forums. The best place to get safety training is the NRA. In fact the NRA has more gun safety classes than all other groups combined.

I listen to a podcast (internet radio type show) called Gun Talk hosted by Tom Gresham. He announced that the NRA is offering discounts on membership for $25 on his last podcast:

guntalk.com/site.php?cid=147113&pageID=95

the direct link is here:

membership.nrahq.org/default…ignid=XR020586

I would encourage all gun owners to join the NRA and take advantage of their training programs for gun safety.

If you have small children in your home you should contact the NRA and ask for the “EDDIE EAGLE” safety program. It is designed to teach very young children that if they see/find a gun they are to leave it alone and find an adult. The program has won numerous awards and is considered the best safety program available for young children.
 
**Great point. If you are a new gun owner with NO training remember this:

Rule #1
Treat the gun as if it were loaded… at all times!

Rule #2
Never EVER allow the gun to be pointed toward anything you aren’t willing to completely destroy.

Rule #3
Keep the gun under lock and key… away from children!

With these simple rules emblazened in your mind, get thee to a certified firearms safety course immediately!**
😃
 
Here are the rules we follow in our household. These are not a substitute for NRA Certified Safety Training. They were developed by American military hero Col. Jeff Cooper.

Read the short form of the rules, then scroll down for the detailed explanation.

Jeff Cooper’s Rules of Gun Safety

**RULE I: ***ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED
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RULE II: NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO DESTROY

RULE III: KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

RULE IV: BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET

RULE I: ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED
There are no exceptions. Do not pretend that this is true. Some people and organizations take this rule and weaken it;e.g. “Treat all guns as if they were loaded.” Unfortunately, the “as if” compromises the directness of the statement by implying that they are unloaded, but we will treat them as though they are loaded. No good! Safety rules must be worded forcefully so that they are never treated lightly or reduced to partial compliance.

All guns are always loaded - period!

This must be your mind-set. If someone hands you a firearm and says, “Don’t worry, it’s not loaded,” you do not dare believe him. You need not be impolite, but check it yourself. Remember, there are no accidents, only negligent acts. Check it. Do not let yourself fall prey to a situation where you might feel compelled to squeal, “I didn’t know it was loaded!”

**RULE II: **NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO DESTROY
Conspicuously and continuously violated, especially with pistols, Rule II applies whether you are involved in range practice, daily carry, or examination. If the weapon is assembled and in someone’s hands, it is capable of being discharged. A firearm holstered properly, lying on a table, or placed in a scabbard is of no danger to anyone. Only when handled is there a need for concern. This rule applies to fighting as well as to daily handling. If you are not willing to take a human life, do not cover a person with the muzzle. This rule also applies to your own person. Do not allow the muzzle to cover your extremities, e.g. using both hands to reholster the pistol. This practice is unsound, both procedurally and tactically. You may need a free hand for something important. Proper holster design should provide for one-handed holstering, so avoid holsters which collapse after withdrawing the pistol. (Note: It is dangerous to push the muzzle against the inside edge of the holster nearest the body to “open” it since this results in your pointing the pistol at your midsection.) Dry-practice in the home is a worthwhile habit and it will result in more deeply programmed reflexes. Most of the reflexes involved in the Modern Technique do not require that a shot be fired. Particular procedures for dry-firing in the home will be covered later. Let it suffice for now that you do not dry-fire using a “target” that you wish not to see destroyed. (Recall RULE I as well.)

**Rule III: **KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET
Rule III is violated most anytime the uneducated person handles a firearm. Whether on TV, in the theaters, or at the range, people seem fascinated with having their finger on the trigger. Never stand or walk around with your finger on the trigger. It is unprofessional, dangerous, and, perhaps most damaging to the psyche, it is klutzy looking. Never fire a shot unless the sights are superimposed on the target and you have made a conscious decision to fire. Firing an unaligned pistol in a fight gains nothing. If you believe that the defensive pistol is only an intimidation tool - not something to be used - carry blanks, or better yet, reevaluate having one around. If you are going to launch a projectile, it had best be directed purposely. Danger abounds if you allow your finger to dawdle inside the trigger guard. As soon as the sights leave the target, the trigger-finger leaves the trigger and straightens alongside the frame. Since the hand normally prefers to work as a unit - as in grasping - separating the function of the trigger-finger from the rest of the hand takes effort. The five-finger grasp is a deeply programmed reflex. Under sufficient stress, and with the finger already placed on the trigger, an unexpected movement, misstep or surprise could result in a negligent discharge. Speed cannot be gained from such a premature placement of the trigger-finger. Bringing the sights to bear on the target, whether from the holster or the Guard Position, takes more time than that required for moving the trigger finger an inch or so to the trigger.

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RULE IV: BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET**
Know what it is, what is in line with it, and what is behind it. Never shoot at anything you have not positively identified. Be aware of your surroundings, whether on the range or in a fight. Do not assume anything. Know what you are doing.

SUMMARY:
Make these rules a part of your character. Never compromise them. Improper gunhandling results from ignorance and improper role modeling, such as handling your gun like your favorite actor does. Education can cure this. You can make a difference by following these gunhandling rules and insisting that those around you do the same. Set the example. Who knows what tragedies you, or someone you influence, may prevent?​
 
I have a friend in the Arizona area who gives gun safety and concealed carry classes. PM me, Arizonans, and I will give you his name. BUT TAKE THE CLASSES!
 
We grew up with guns in the house and it was never a problem. My brother took the gun safety course when he was 9 or 10.

We had lots of fun with BB guns as kids, shooting cans off the porch at the cabin.

Yes, it is possible to be a responsible gun owner!
 
I must be reading different threads.

Where are all the new gun owners posting. And if so, why the sudden surge in gun buying?
 
I must be reading different threads.

Where are all the new gun owners posting. And if so, why the sudden surge in gun buying?
In the political area there are several threads on guns. There are probably a dozen or more people who have gone out and purchased guns since the election who have posted stating that fact. Just figuring that many others don’t post duplicate information it stands to reason that there are many more here who have done the same thing.

The facts are clear nationally, background checks were up over 10% just prior to the election, I’ve heard that they are up almost 50% since the election. The local and national news media are running stories about the run on gun stores by new gun buyers.

Not wanting to get into a political discussion here, but Obama’s voting record is very different than his campaign rhetoric and his voting record indicates he is anti-handgun, anti-rifle, anti-self-defense, has voted for a 500% ammunition tax, voted (twice) to make it illegal to use a legally purchased gun for self defense, etc. That is why people are rushing out and buying guns.
 
Go to any sporting goods store and ask how sales are going. My brother had been comteplating buy a pistol for some time. He has his concealed carry license. He went and bought a gun the day after the election because he saw a report on the expected increase in demand and therefore price. He bought the last one in stock and the clerk told him that the wholesale price for the new ones they purchased had gone up 25%.
 
So you are saying that so far, Obama is VERY good for the gun inustry?? 😃

Thanks, I hadn’t heard such reports. But I’m not a gun guy.
 
Thanks for this link. I do have small kids in my home and I just mailed off my FOID (Firearm Owners ID) application on Monday.

My DH has an expired one but I have an app for him to fill out.

We can’t wait to go pick out our new gun!👍
 
So you are saying that so far, Obama is VERY good for the gun inustry?? 😃
Well in the short term his election has spurred a panic situation among many to rush out and get guns before he works to ban them, ban their use in self-defense, and otherwise prevent people from exercising their civil and human rights.
Thanks for this link. I do have small kids in my home
Here is a link directly to the EDDIE THE EAGLE program. Make sure you take advantage of this program for your children, there are also NRA ‘youth memberships’ that focus on gun safety so you may want to consider getting a youth membership for your home too.

EDDIE THE EAGLE SAFETY: nrahq.org/safety/eddie/
Yes, it is possible to be a responsible gun owner!
What is shocking is that people mistakenly believe that most guns & gun owners are NOT responsible. There are simply tens of millions of guns in America and only a tiny fraction are ever involved in accidents, crimes or other problems. Most of us are MORE responsible, MORE law abiding than the average citizen.
 
How timely. I’m actually going to take a class this weekend, hopefully. After that I’m going to join a range and try out some different firearms and maybe make a purchase. Fortunately for us (my wife and me), the NRA headquarters is right down the freeway.

It’s funny–Obama’s election to the presidency HAS been good for gun sales. Call it a national meme, but a lot of us bitter religion-and-gun-clingers have this “feeling” that the time is right for gun ownership. I had one back in Montana (a cute little .22 Ruger revolver), but I haven’t had one here in the D.C. area where I might REALLY need personal protection.

So, do any of you fellow bitter-clingers have any suggestions? My brother has a Ruger P94 that I liked, but my wife wants to get a revolver. They’re theoretically more reliable and easier to maintain. I just want something that feels good in my hand, has adequate stopping power without being a hand canon, and doesn’t cost an arm and a leg. Suggestions?
 
So, do any of you fellow bitter-clingers have any suggestions? My brother has a Ruger P94 that I liked, but my wife wants to get a revolver. They’re theoretically more reliable and easier to maintain. I just want something that feels good in my hand, has adequate stopping power without being a hand canon, and doesn’t cost an arm and a leg. Suggestions?
I’d look at a Glock 19. It is a medium sized gun, fits many people’s hands (but not for the petitie) and many who favor revolvers are buying Glocks.

Glocks are known for absolute reliability. Nobody will ever argue that point. They are also very very simple to maintain and to shoot.

Modestly priced too.
 
My cousin, a Navy master chief has a Glock and loves it.

Presumably so does the thief who stole his previous one in a burglery. Don’t just secure them against kids folks. :mad:
 
My cousin, a Navy master chief has a Glock and loves it.

Presumably so does the thief who stole his previous one in a burglery. Don’t just secure them against kids folks. :mad:
That is an excellent point 👍

As part of being a gun owner comes the responsibility to keep the gun secure. Certainly if someone buys a gun for hunting or sport shooting they can lock a gun in a safe, but for people who want a gun for protection, locking a gun in a safe is pointless. There are some very good options that allow people to have a secure weapon and easy access.

I have an instant open safe that has the capacity to hold a couple handguns, some jewelry, etc. It has a finger pad on the top and a spring loaded door. The finger pad is touch sensitive and can be operated in the dark. Your fingers go on the pad, you press the code and the spring loaded door pops open so you can access the contents. The base of the safe has holes in it so you can bolt it to a wall stud, inside a piece of furniture, under a counter, etc. I believe it cost about $70. There are many models of these available, I’ve seen them from about $50 to over $350, in different sizes with different options, including lighted interiors, biometric combinations, etc.

Here is a YouTube video showing one of the high end biometric safes:
youtube.com/watch?v=kjWTLyyqw04

I have one very similar to this, but without the biometric feature, it looks like this, works like this, but uses touch pads instead of biometric pads.
youtube.com/watch?v=NbTTP0c9Cr0&NR=1

Again, working with an NRA Certified Training Instructor would be a great way to find out about these and various other ways to safely store a gun.
 
I had gun training 2 years ago from a former marine…it was the best money I ever spent. I was so scared because I hadn’t even shot a gun before and by the end of the lesson I had shot 3 different guns, including an AR-15:D

My husband and I now own 4 guns and are looking for a few more before we cant buy them anymore:mad:

Hubby and I also have our Texas conceil carry and I highly reccommend you get one if you can.

We are kinda bummed that Obama will ban alot of guns when he becomes president, but hopefully he screws the country up so bad that in four years a conservative gets elected into office to undo all his mistakes:p

Thinking about getting hubby a desert eagle for christmas. Think he can handle a 50 cal?😛

Jill
 
DH works for a national outdoors/sporting good company, so he gets a great discount on concealed carry classes. We’re planning on taking them very soon. I can’t wait; I’ll probably get my concealed carry permit, but I’m much more interested in the training.
 
DH works for a national outdoors/sporting good company, so he gets a great discount on concealed carry classes. We’re planning on taking them very soon. I can’t wait; I’ll probably get my concealed carry permit, but I’m much more interested in the training.
Better hurry! You may not be able to get a conceil carry permit after January:(
 
I feel that citizen ownership is very important for the wellbeing of our great nation. That being said, here are a few things to keep in mind. Firearm ownership is not for everyone. If you have a hot temper or are prone to impulsive reactions, please do not buy a weapon. Also, there are people on here that seem to be advocating that people should get concealed weapons permits and have weapons for defensive purposes. This is also not for everyone. If you have any doubts as to whether or not you would be able to pull the trigger to defend yourself or a loved one, you are better off without a weapon. If you were to hesitate at the wrong time, the weapon could be taken from you and used against you. I carry from time to time when legal and I feel conditions warrant it. For example, I went on a moon-lit hike last night with a friend and brought along a side arm. I also keep a rifle in my tuck when I am on the farm. That being said, I would never give my mother a weapon for defense because I know she doesn’t have what it takes to use it. This is not to say that you should not own a weapon for target practice, hunting, and so fourth. You just need to give these issues careful consideration. And as others have said, please make sure you understand weapons safety and are thoroughly familiar with the operation and functions of your weapon.

Also I understand people’s fears given the political climate and feel that we should act accordingly, but please do not forget to pray about this.
 
The use of a firearm can result in death or injury.
The ownership and use of firearms should therefore be considered with caution.
Having a firearm does not make you safer, but with competence it could.
Using firearms entails more than pulling a trigger or even aiming as the user should:
Firstly avoid situations where risk to their personal safety could be high
Identify the threat.
Assess the risk of using the firearm.
Try to avoid using the firearm.
Only when they have no choice, use the firearm effectively.

After using the firearm, there are consequences such as court cases, dealing with the shock of killing or hurting another (particularly if an innocent victim).

That is anything but simple or trivial.
An untrained owner of a firearm is a great danger to themselves and others.
Training reduces the risk of incorrect behaviour, use, maintenance and storage.
Regular referesher training is critical too.

This is much like using a motor car - you learn to drive under supervision before venturing out alone.

Remember you can’t “un-shoot” an unintended victim!
 
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