New Jerusalem Bible Footnote: profession of faith required for baptism

[David89]

I was just reading my New Jerusalem Bible and found a footnote that to me appears very unCatholic, which is surprising since it is generally the translation used outside of the US.

Ive recently come back to the Church and this is why the footnote confuses me…

Ephesians 5:25-26
Husbands should love their wives, just as Christ loved the Church and sacraficed himself for her to make her holy by washing her in cleansing water with a form of words* footnote.

Then the footnote reads
Baptism has no value unless it is accompanied by proclamation of the word, expressed through evangelisation by the minister and the recipients profession of faith, 1:13 cf. Mk16:15seq.; Ac2:38y;Rm6:4a; 1 P 1:23m.

I am very confused

Is this a bad translation/version?

Is recipient profession of faith required at Baptism?

 

[dogknox]

I was just reading my New Jerusalem Bible and found a footnote that to me appears very unCatholic, which is surprising since it is generally the translation used outside of the US.
Ive recently come back to the Church and this is why the footnote confuses me…
I am very confused
Is this a bad translation/version?
Is recipient profession of faith required at Baptism?

**David89 **hello; Good to meet you!
I was in a Protestant church, on the wall in the main entrance they displayed a reproduction of the first protestant bible, with a side note pointing to the fact this bible was **without **“Footnotes”!

Now today, all protestant bibles have “Footnotes”!? Seems as if they can’t trust each person can be trusted to interpret the scriptures ALONE! Go figure!!
Thinking about it… If they believe the footnotes, then they can’t be trusting in scriptures ALONE!
It becomes; “Footnotes PLUS Scriptures!”

You question the footnotes… They would reply; “forget about the footnotes, the scriptures tell you baptism is symbolic!”
They must reject the; Great Commission!
“All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them …

Clearly “Baptism Makes Disciples”!

They must reject; “Disciples made by baptism are Jesus brothers!”
49 Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers.

They must reject: “Baptism ADDS people to Jesus’ holy body!”
40 With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, “Save yourselves from this corrupt generation.”
41 Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day.

**David89 ** Peter “ADDED about three thousand to Jesus body” the first day of Pentecost!
All in Jesus’ body are God’ Children!
All of God’ CHILDREN are BROTHERS/SISTERS of Jesus!
All Brothers/Sisters of Jesus Honor Mary their mother!

Dogknox

 

[ByzCathCantor]

Is recipient profession of faith required at Baptism?

I’m embarrased to say I cannot remember what the Roman Ritual requires, but in the Eastern Catholic traditions, recitation of the Creed (Profession of Faith) is an integral part of the Rite of Baptism / Christian Initiation. If an infant is being baptized, the Creed is recited by the Godparents on the child’s behalf.

The footnote appears to have some relevance in that context.

 

[FrDavid96]

I was just reading my New Jerusalem Bible and found a footnote that to me appears very unCatholic, which is surprising since it is generally the translation used outside of the US.

Ive recently come back to the Church and this is why the footnote confuses me…

I am very confused

Is this a bad translation/version?

Is recipient profession of faith required at Baptism?

Some kind of profession of faith has always been required for Baptism. That’s where the Apostles Creed originated, from the ancient baptism ritual. Parents do this on behalf of the child.

It’s not so much that some specific words must be used (although the Creeds are especially suited to this, and the proper ritual should be used whenever possible), but the idea that the candidate for Baptism must somehow express faith in Christ before being baptised is nothing new and indeed has always been the Christian understanding.

Think of it the other way around. If a priest is about to baptise someone and asks “do you believe in God?” The candidate answers “no.” Should he proceed with the baptism?

 

[David89]

So proclamation of faith is required but it can be done on behalf of the parents. Then I guess later on during conformation the recipient has the ability to say yes themselves.

Maybe I should swap to another Bible for now, or ignore the footnotes lol. Perhaps the ignatious study bible…

 

[MarcoPolo]

So proclamation of faith is required but it can be done on behalf of the parents. Then I guess later on during conformation the recipient has the ability to say yes themselves.

Maybe I should swap to another Bible for now, or ignore the footnotes lol. Perhaps the ignatious study bible…

*The fact that infants cannot yet profess personal faith does not prevent the Church from conferring this sacrament on them, since in reality it is in her own faith that she baptizes them. … [T]he child who is baptized believes not on its own account, by a personal act, but through others, ‘through the Church’s faith communicated to it.’" (Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Instruction on Infant Baptism, 1980, #14)*When confused, sometimes it helps to find an explanation from a Magisterial doc.

 

[fred_conty]

If a person with reason didn’t know what they were doing when they are baptised, then it would not be a baptism. Just as if a person didn’t know what they were doing when they are being ordained a priest, then they would not be a priest.

The sacraments require knowledge to be received. So the person is informed by the priest beforehand(evangelized), and the person responds to this by reciting the creed, which contains the main doctrines of faith. Then the sacramental action takes place.

Just a thought.