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Has anyone come across any new Mass Settings that is in some way exceptional?

Please comment on difficulty and other outstanding factors. Thanks.
 
I haven’t, but I just became a church organist a couple months ago and I’ve been told that when the Mass’ language is changed the music will change with it.

I guess it’s good that it’s happening now when I’m still learning things, as opposed to people who have been doing the same stuff for decades.
 
MonFrere said:
to liturgical musicians …

Has anyone come across any new Mass Settings that is in some way exceptional?

Please comment on difficulty and other outstanding factors. Thanks.
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I would highly recommended the Jubilate Deo setting. It is very easy to sing, and is ideal for congregations who do not frequently sing chant, but is also good for experienced ones.

Kyrie
Gloria
Credo
Sanctus
Agnus Dei

These Mass parts were put forward by Pope Paul VI as minimum repertoire of Gregorian chant for every catholic.

Here is why this is an excellent setting to use for Mass:

GIRM:
All other things being equal, Gregorian chant holds pride of place because it is proper to the Roman Liturgy.
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Since faithful from different countries come together ever more frequently, it is fitting that they know how to sing together at least some parts of the Ordinary of the Mass in Latin, especially the Creed and the Lord’s Prayer, set to the simpler melodies

De Musica Sacra:
Steps should be taken enabling the faithful to say or to sing together in Latin those parts of the Ordinary of the Mass belonging to them
 
TheMc said:
I would highly recommended the Jubilate Deo setting. It is very easy to sing, and is ideal for congregations who do not frequently sing chant, but is also good for experienced ones.

Kyrie
Gloria
Credo
Sanctus
Agnus Dei

These Mass parts were put forward by Pope Paul VI as minimum repertoire of Gregorian chant for every catholic.
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TheMc,

Thanks for the reply. Actually, this particular Kyrie is the one we are using through Lent. I’ll put this by our new priest. This priest is young and did his first years at the Cathedral, the parish of our bishop, where the liturgy is often accompanied by better choices in liturgical music. He may be amenable to a Latin Setting. It (the complete Mass Setting) is already part of our liturgical books. This may be a good choice.

ANY OTHER SETTINGS?
 
MonFrere said:
TheMc,

Thanks for the reply. Actually, this particular Kyrie is the one we are using through Lent. I’ll put this by our new priest. This priest is young and did his first years at the Cathedral, the parish of our bishop, where the liturgy is often accompanied by better choices in liturgical music. He may be amenable to a Latin Setting. It (the complete Mass Setting) is already part of our liturgical books. This may be a good choice.

ANY OTHER SETTINGS?
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I’ve heard some musicians say that the chant setting which is included in the Roman Missal is very nice.
 
The ICEL settings that Phemie was referring to are very good. These are the default settings and will be inserted into the coming revised Roman Missal:

icelweb.org/musicfolder/openmusic.php

After listening to several settings from OCP, I am afraid that I cannot recommend them. Nearly all of them have responsorial Glorias. It is a shame that the music does not fit the nobility of the words.

The Chant Cafe does have tutorials for the revised settings on its website.
 
MonFrere said:
TheMc,

Thanks for the reply. Actually, this particular Kyrie is the one we are using through Lent. I’ll put this by our new priest. This priest is young and did his first years at the Cathedral, the parish of our bishop, where the liturgy is often accompanied by better choices in liturgical music. He may be amenable to a Latin Setting. It (the complete Mass Setting) is already part of our liturgical books. This may be a good choice.
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I almost forgot to let you know. Please don’t use the OCP settings. I have yet to find anything with dignity from OCP.
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ANY OTHER SETTINGS?
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Below is the notation from the missal. Using the resorces on this page, you can sing the entire Mass in english, including both readings and Eucharistic Prayer.

[ICEL Musical Settings (Welcome to ICEL)

Here’s a few samples from this page:
This site will be very helpful for anyone trying to sing the Mass, while staying in english. But never forget:

“Nevertheless steps should be taken so that the faithful may also be able to say or to sing together in Latin those parts of
the Ordinary of the Mass which pertain to them.”
– Vatican II Council, Constitution on the Sacred Liturgy *Sacrosanctum Concilium *54
 
TheMc said:
I almost forgot to let you know. Please don’t use the OCP settings. I have yet to find anything with dignity from OCP.

Below is the notation from the missal. Using the resorces on this page, you can sing the entire Mass in english, including both readings and Eucharistic Prayer.

ICEL Musical Settings
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TheMc,

Thanks for the additional information. Personally, I don’t have any great affection for OCP; or any other publisher that makes “dogma” out of PC issues. I wrote a musical setting to the Angelus and the major U.S. publishers reserved the right to change the wording to fit current PC language. I was just as happy NOT having it published than to be associated, even indirectly, with this type craziness. Please DON’T COMMENT to the above – I’d like to keep this thread to the topic of New Mass Settings that fits our revised Missal.

MonFrere
 
My parish is using all of these but the Kyrie right now!
TheMc said:
I would highly recommended the Jubilate Deo setting. It is very easy to sing, and is ideal for congregations who do not frequently sing chant, but is also good for experienced ones.

Kyrie
Gloria
Credo
Sanctus
Agnus Dei

These Mass parts were put forward by Pope Paul VI as minimum repertoire of Gregorian chant for every catholic.

Here is why this is an excellent setting to use for Mass:

GIRM:
All other things being equal, Gregorian chant holds pride of place because it is proper to the Roman Liturgy.
…
Since faithful from different countries come together ever more frequently, it is fitting that they know how to sing together at least some parts of the Ordinary of the Mass in Latin, especially the Creed and the Lord’s Prayer, set to the simpler melodies

De Musica Sacra:
Steps should be taken enabling the faithful to say or to sing together in Latin those parts of the Ordinary of the Mass belonging to them
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The Mass of the Resurrection (minus the brass) is probably the best one from OCP that I can remember. I’m not saying that I’m raving about it though. Most of the settings from OCP or GIA I would label as trash. I don’t remember which publisher or what the name is, but there is a decent chant setting that has been put out (from the few samples I heard).

Really, other than that, nothing much so far. I’ll keep looking. Perhaps there’s something nice hidden away that we can uncover.
 
The ICEL looks great, but it can’t be used right now, correct?

It is important to note that the music available on this site is for study rather than immediate liturgical use as determining definitive versions is the responsibility of the Bishops’ Conferences.
 
I_Thirst said:
The ICEL looks great, but it can’t be used right now, correct?
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Correct. It has much to do with copyrights and other related issues. Using them in the liturgy today would be in violation to/with those laws and agreements.
 
MonFrere said:
– I’d like to keep this thread to the topic of New Mass Settings that fits our revised Missal.
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Fair enough, but there is no revised Missal. Only the English translation of the liturgy is being revised. Polish, Spanish, and other translations of the Roman missal are unaffected. I say this because the hispanics at my parish who attend their Spanish Mass are asking these questions.
 
ProVobis said:
Fair enough, but there is no revised Missal. Only the English translation of the liturgy is being revised. Polish, Spanish, and other translations of the Roman missal are unaffected. I say this because the hispanics at my parish who attend their Spanish Mass are asking these questions.
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That’s not quite right. We are presently working with the First Edition. The upcoming transIation is of the Third Edition of the Roman Missal and English is not the only language into which it is being translated.

That said, the changes in the Latin version are not drastic and may pass unnoticed.
 
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