New priest conundrum

[frangiuliano115]

If I witnessed what you mentioned in the first paragraph I would go after the woman and at the very least see if she has permission to do that from the priest to bring it home for someone who is perhaps a shut in. I wouldn’t think any priest would allow someone to just put the Eucharist in their pocket rather than using a pyx, but then again I think many priests today don’t even believe in the real presence. Telling an Extraordinary Minister is useless; the priest needs to be told personally and every time until something is done about it. In all probability I would make a scene if necessary and forcibly take it from her and make sure she knows she isn’t welcome to keep doing it. This cannot be tolerated and it is up to the faithful to put a stop to it if no one else will. Who knows if she’s taking it to be desecrated in a “Black Mass,” or whatever.

What do you mean by “Latin Rite Mass?” Almost every Mass is a Latin Rite Mass. If you’re referring to the Extraordinary Form of the Mass, what you describe is the only option for distribution of communion. In my opinion the reason the “Old Mass” was given wider permission to be offered was to show us how it’s supposed to be done (we’re so far-gone from where we were we don’t even know why we do what we do anymore), back from the days where what you described above would not as easily happen. In at least one parish I’ve attended in the Ordinary Form they have two people standing at either side of the sanctuary watching to make sure every host is consumed. Perhaps you can suggest this is something they start doing.

I’ve seen one instance where the host was dropped and the priest simply picked it up, put it in his mouth, and kept on going with Communion. Someone else I mentioned this to before said they’ve witnessed the same happen in their own parish.

I believe the woman takes the host home to a sick relative. The eucharistic minister knows this is happening and so does the priest. I really don’t think it’s up to me to run after her. The priest should take her aside and tell her that she MUST take the host in mouth from that moment forward. Just like a priest would have to do if someone presents to receive communion and he knows that person is in serious sin. He must, however, give communion at that moment since he cannot deny it to anyone since he does not know their heart at the moment. But can clarity later on in private.

We’ve had robberies for the black mass but our churches are now being kept locked. We all must suffer for the sins of a few. The above is not the case.

You’re right, I meant the extraordinary form of the Mass, said in Latin with the priest facing away from the congregation and toward the altar (at the foot of the cross and tabernacle).
Plus this friar/priest (who is in a sanctuary) believes that the communion should ALWAYS be given on the tongue. We have one altar boy standing next to the priest at the parish at the post 1970 mass (ordinary?) but he’s the same one who just stood there when the host fell.

I taught catechism and although the Mass is not my forte, I did have to teach the 4 parts of the Mass and I did try my best to show how important the host is - and also when teaching for first communion - but I see those parishoners lining up like they’re going to get candy and it bothers me somewhat, may God forgive me, a sinner.

Just to answer your post. Thanks.

God bless you
Fran

 

[Mark121359]

It bothers me to no end that some on here want to insinuate that “radical traditionalists” are somehow to blame for this priest’s hang-up. Especially since the OP stated clearly more than once that no such problem exists at this parish! One could get the impression that to some on here, these “radicals” are present in every parish that offers the EF Mass. That has not been my experience! I’ve never met a “radical traditionalist.” Did it ever occur to you, that just maybe the real radical here is the one denying parishioners the choice of how they wish to receive Holy Communion?

Peace, Mark

 

[Gorgias]

I have seen where “flu season” is a reason given to quell any blow back by people who wish to receive on the tongue. It always amuses me because if COTT is done correctly, no saliva is touched.

I’m not so sure. Perhaps you mean that “no fingers touch lips or tongues”, and perhaps that’s true. Still, though, there’s something you’re not considering: when you open your mouth to receive the host, and breathe out through your mouth, you exhale aerosolized saliva. So, the minister who is distributing the Eucharist, even if he does not make physical contact with your lips or tongue, may still have your saliva on his fingers. I would think that this would be an issue during cold & flu season. (I know that, when I distribute Communion, I make sure to wash my hands as soon as possible after Mass.)

 

[808Catholic]

Sorry. I didn’t intend for you to betray a confidence, just wondered what the POPE might have said to anger your friend.

The Laudato Si. I can understand why it might disturb some people. It kind of disturbs me too. I say “kind of” because there are other ideas more important going on all over our world that bother me more, but it does go to that idea of a one world order and maybe even a one world religion. It has to start somewhere and already has and maybe even the catholic church is getting onboard?

I’ve read some of the encyclical - it’s difficult to read and really understand the whole doc, but I ask if the church should even be involved in such matters. Isn’t our goal to save souls??

And I take this opportunity to repeat that EVERY document our church publishes is too difficult to understand easily and many remain confused. I’m on another forum and the misunderstandings of our docs is unbelievable (I do understand some from which I’ve had to teach).

I also know very traditional catholics that do not care for our Pope. I’m not one and this certainly would not be the reason for me to consider leaving the church.

“To whom shall we go?” Peter asked Jesus.

God bless you
Fran

@Fran
I note the difficulty in reading the entire Laudato Si; I’m in the process myself. At first, I thought along the line you have expressed in your post. Upon praying on this matter (“why would the Holy Father release this encyclical at that THIS time??”), I began to view it in another light.

My conclusion is, what Pope Francis is saying is exactly what Jesus would say today if He were here. Just as it was hard to hear and follow Jesus over 2,000 years ago, His message, through the Pope, is just as hard. When I reflected on what was Adam’s commission after God created him, I can see why the Pope believes we need to return to our spiritual “roots”; we must protect the planet AND save people. It’s not one at the cost of the other. How we balance these important tasks is driven by our sphere of influence. We do what we can when we can so as to do both the best that we can.

On the topic of church documents being difficult to understand, I agree to some extent. They are difficult because they deal with difficult topics and the message is inspired by God. However, with the Holy Spirit’s assistance, we can discern His message better. Let’s continue to pray.

God Bless you.