New Saint Joseph Sunday Missal and Hymnal 1966: what to expect?

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I just ordered the New Saint Joseph Sunday Missal and Hymnal 1966 edition. It was overall less than $20, and I look forward to receiving it. I understand that the Novus Ordo Mass was not implemented until 1970, so I am hoping this 1966 book includes the words of the Mass in Latin.

Does anyone have this edition? What do you think of it?

Thanks!
 
That edition should have the Mass in English and in Latin. The Missal will be the Missal of 1965, though, which is neither the current Pauline Mass (Novus Ordo) nor the Extraordinary Form Mass (TLM). It was an interim missal between 1965 and atout 1970. That’s the missal that was in effect when I was young; when I made my First Communion. I still have my copy but it’s quite the worse for wear. Where did you find yours?
 
Corki said:
That edition should have the Mass in English and in Latin. The Missal will be the Missal of 1965, though, which is neither the current Pauline Mass (Novus Ordo) nor the Extraordinary Form Mass (TLM). It was an interim missal between 1965 and atout 1970. That’s the missal that was in effect when I was young; when I made my First Communion. I still have my copy but it’s quite the worse for wear. Where did you find yours?
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Ah, that’s what I thought might be the case. Should be interesting to have though.

I actually have a pre-1960s Missal passed down in the family (1956 I think), but I was hoping to get another one.

I found mine at abebooks.com
 
Madaglan said:
Ah, that’s what I thought might be the case. Should be interesting to have though.

I actually have a pre-1960s Missal passed down in the family (1956 I think), but I was hoping to get another one.

I found mine at abebooks.com
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Thanks. I have unintentionally created a small collection of St. Joseph Missals in seach of a replacement for mine. :o I have a wonderful 1959 edition that is almost identical to a 1962 Missal - the EF Mass. I will look at abebooks as well.
 
Got this from a post on ebay:
Saint Joseph** Daily Missal from 1956 to 1964**
Saint Joseph Daily Missal, Catholic Book Publishing Company, Confraternity Version, Edited by Rev. Hugo H. Hoever, S.O.Cist, Ph.D., Introduction by Rev. Richard Kugelman, C.P., S.T.L., S.S.L.; Pages: 1343; Copyright 1956 to 1964

The Saint Joseph Daily Missal was printed by the Catholic Book Publishing Company and is considered a favorite among Traditional minded Catholics. Many Catholics look through ebay hoping to find a good deal on this vintage Missal. Its easy-to-read pages are accompanied by beautiful color prints throughout, as well as photoengravure, Stations of the Cross and Mysteries of the Holy Rosary, and many indulgenced prayers. The wording is easy to understand and parts of the Mass are marked and explained for each section of The Ordinary of the Mass which contains both Latin and English. Latin is on the left hand side and English is on the right hand side of The Ordinary of the Mass. Some of these Missals will have little circles which mark the parts of the Dialogue Mass. These can be ignored and are present in Most Saint Joseph Daily Missals printed after 1955. The Dialogue Mass itself was introduced in the late 1930’s.

Some Catholics are under the false impression that Saint Joseph Daily Missals printed after 1962 will contain Novus Ordo Mass content. This is entirely false.

Changes for the Novus Ordo Missal were implemented slowly, and these changes are not present in Missals printed up until 1964.

Any Catholic purchasing a Saint Joseph Daily Missal which states it includes Latin and English and Copyrighted 1963, 1964, will be getting the identical content in the Ordinary of the Mass (except for the 2nd Confiteor, after 1962) of any Missal printed from 1956 until 1964.

All Missals are identical, but with the exception of those printed with the liturgical changes of John XXIII, which we will term as the 1962 Missale Romanum. Those missals will have many Feast Days excluded, one of which is “The Finding of the Holy Cross”, and many more. The Traditional color pictures will still be included in all missals from 1956 until 1964.

From 1965 onward will be the Tridentine Mass revised and then the Novus Ordo Missae.
**f you see a book on auction which states it is a “Saint Joseph Daily Missal and Hymnal”, then do not buy it as it is the new Mass revised edition. **

They did not change the Missal as explicitly from 1965 to 1966, but then later we will see a complete change from the Mass Prayers as they were originally, to the Protestantism inserted into the New Mass by Bugnini, and the Vatican II reformers
reviews.ebay.com/Saint-Joseph-Daily-Missal-From-1956-to-1964-The-same_W0QQugidZ10000000000077937

The years 1951-1962 witnessed several changes to the Missale Romanum. The following is a rough and incomplete overview:
1951-52 Optional Easter Vigil (with fewer Lessons, etc) introduced.

1953 - New office for the Feast of the Assumption

1955-56 Changes to the ranking of feasts and Sundays, e.g., abolition of semi-doubles. Suppression of octaves except those of Christmas, Easter, and Pentecost and the Abolition of most Vigils. Changes to Holy Week: Palm Sunday “fore Mass” abridged; Maundy Thursday and Good Friday amended; the optional Easter Vigil made mandatory. Several feasts dropped or moved.

1960-61 - More changes to rankings: first through fourth class instead of doubles, simples, etc. Perfidis removed from Good Friday prayer for the Jews. Several more feasts dropped or moved. Second Confiteor omitted.2 Benedicamus Domino no longer used instead of Ite missa est* on penitential days. Last Gospels other than John 1:1-14 all but eliminated. Leonine prayer after Low Mass omitted.*

1962 - Five optional “Gallican” prefaces added (July).3 Saint Joseph’s name added to the canon (November).
Concretely this means that the older the missal, the more it is at variance with the 1962 typical edition currently sanctioned for use. A Missal originally published before 1955, for instance, does not have the right Holy Week, and has the moveable Solemnity of Saint Joseph the Worker on May 1.
And yet for some, this might not be that important. Updated Propers are provided at most traditional Masses in a bulletin or leaflet, while most lay folk do not need to figure out a feast’s rank. A missal not having the revised Triduum or latest calendar of saints is an issue, but perhaps less so depending on what Masses you are actually able to attend. And as a result of the Holy Father’s new Good Friday prayer for the Jews, every missal is now in need of at least one update.

extraordinaryfromsingapore.blogspot.com/2008/08/finding-right-missal.html

Just for your information: the missal suffered a basic change in 1955 (renewing the Calendar and introducing the new Ordo Hebdomodae Sanctae), after that a minor change in 1960, and inserting St Joseph into the Canon in 1962.

The last change before 1955 was Leo XIII adding his prayer to the end of the Low Masses.

As far as I know the SSPX , FFSP and diocesan priest celebrate the TLM according to the 1962 edition and calendar, the rest are using the pre 1955 calendar.
 
A few things, like the Introibo and the Last Gospel were removed in 1965, so there were changes between the 1962 and 1966 Missals. And more later until the New Mass would come out in 1969.
 
In plain English, the 1966 missal will have all of the audible parts of the Mass in English and the inaudible parts will still be ion Latin. The prayers at the foot of the altar will be shorter (no psalm) and the last gospel will not be there. The two parts of the Mass will already be the Liturgy of the Word and Eucharist, and the pictures wil envision a free-standing altar.
 
ProVobis said:
A few things, like the Introibo and the Last Gospel were removed in 1965 …
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I don’t believe that’s quite correct. Yes, the Last Gospel was deleted, but the Prayers at the Foot of the Altar were merely shortened by removing Psalm 42 (which, in any case, wasn’t always used. e.g. Requiems). The Introibo etc, was retained.
 
jpy15026 said:
As far as I know the SSPX , FFSP and diocesan priest celebrate the TLM according to the 1962 edition and calendar, the rest are using the pre 1955 calendar.
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The terms of Summorum Pontificum stipulate that the 1962 Missale Romanum be used.
 
malphono said:
I don’t believe that’s quite correct. Yes, the Last Gospel was deleted, but the Prayers at the Foot of the Altar were merely shortened by removing Psalm 42 (which, in any case, wasn’t always used. e.g. Requiems). The Introibo etc, was retained.
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The Introibo is Psalm 42. 😉
 
I also bought a 1930’s Roman Missal for under $20, which I also will be getting in. It should be interesting to compare!
 
ProVobis said:
The Introibo is Psalm 42. 😉
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Not quite. The words “introibo ad altare dei” are part of the Psalm. They are used separately at the beginning of the Prayers at the Foot of the Altar and, when Psalm 42 was said, they again appear in their place in the text of the Psalm. It was the Psalm text that was eliminated in 1965, not the Introibo itself.
 
malphono said:
Not quite. The words “introibo ad altare dei” are part of the Psalm. They are used separately at the beginning of the Prayers at the Foot of the Altar and, when Psalm 42 was said, they again appear in their place in the text of the Psalm. It was the Psalm text that was eliminated in 1965, not the Introibo itself.
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Okay, I’ll take your word for it. The reason I said Introibo instead of Psalm 42 is that Psalm 42 is now Psalm 43 in the newer Bibles and I didn’t want to confuse anyone.
 
I purchased this for my husband and we are now getting one for his father. It is a handsome edition and has lots of great features already listed in the previous review. My husband and I appreciate the short writings telling us what the readings are about each week…kind of a mini-homiliy. It is very easy to read and understand and helps you to participate in the Mass more fully. This book is good for a number of years as it lists the three-year cycle and you look up where we are in the liturgical calendar rather than only getting the Missal for one year at a time. I highly recommend this Saint Joseph edition!
 
I have a fairly large collection of missals from 1940 to the present. Those editions, starting in the late 40’s began placing a lot of the Propers in english only. I was rather disappointed. To get a pure Latin missal I found it necessary to get a re-print of much older editions.
 
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