I know the Biedrik didn’t say this but I have been told by Ukrainian Catholics that all Rutheians are really Ukrainians though they do not know it just as Moscow says that all Slavs are Russians though they don’t know it.
Right but historically there is no such thing as a Major Archbishop. If anything our Metropolitan Churches should be what the so-called Major-Archepiscopal Churches are and be linked to an Eastern Patriarch for confirmations not Rome, and our Patriarchal Churches should be truly on the same level as the Latin Church.
I sort of agree. I don’t think the Vatican would like that. And whom would it be? The Melkites? Gregory III is the most senior Byzantine Bishop in communion with Rome no? Would that cause jealousy amongst other Byzantines? What about the Copts who have Alexandria?
I don’t know if that’s why it’s on top. I know the red and white comes from the days of the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth, where the coat of arms of Lithuania was a white knight on a red background, while the Polish one was a white eagle on a red background. The colors were familiar to both nations, so we adopted them as our national colors.
I know there could be some issues, but if they were self governing it really shouldn’t matter.
Ukrainians never like Polish control either.… We Poles never liked Russian control, and I’m sure we’re not the only ones with that sentiment.
Well, in Ukraine in the modern era it is not Warsaw but Moscow that deems Ukraine as belonging to it, the Russian world, in the famous words of Patriarch Kirill of the Russian Orthodox Church. Poland does not claim Ukraine as belonging to the Polish world. You see there is no such thing as Polish imperialism in the 21st century Michael. It was after all Lech Walesa who came to Kyiv in 2004 to support Ukrainian democracy and dignity for the people, while Russia’s Putin was supporting the thugs who wanted to crush the Ukrainian Orange Revolution on Kyiv’s Independence Square and have a repeat of Tiananmen Square.Ukrainians never like Polish control either.
As much as we resent losing Lviv, we don’t seek to control Ukraine, so this isn’t relevant.Ukrainians never like Polish control either.
Yes, but the remark I was commenting on has nothing to do with the 21st century either. All I see is “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”, and when the enemies change the friends change too. It’s an old story in that part of the world.
This may be a foreshadowing of the Vaticans response to the request for a patriarchate. Pope Benedict refered to His Eminence as “Your Eminence” not “Your Beatitude” he also called him, and the former officer holder, Major Archbishop.
Yes, I noticed that too. We shall have to wait and see; the Ukrainian Catholic delegation is still in Rome for the next several days I believe.
Wouldn’t he address HB Sviatoslav on what his position is today, and not what it could be later on? You don’t call a seminarian “Father” until he is actually ordained a priest.
Yes but imagine what would have happened if he did address him as “Your Beatitude” and called him patriarch? After all the UGCC Synod has elected a patriarch, Rome just does not recognize this fact. All the Holy Father would be doing is recognizing the fact of this.
I believe it will happen sometime, but not overnight. It probably won’t happen in the next year or so. But HB Sviatoslav is 41, it will happen within his lifetime.
What is the significance of referring to HE Lubomyr as “His Beatitude,” while calling him a Major Archbishop at the same time?