New York’s true nursing home death toll cloaked in secrecy

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New York’s coronavirus death toll in nursing homes, already among the highest in the nation, could actually be a significant undercount. Unlike every other state with major outbreaks, New York only counts residents who died on nursing home property and not those who were transported to hospitals and died there.
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Andrew Cuomo has refused to divulge the number, leading to speculation the state is manipulating the figures to make it appear it is doing a better than other states and to make a tragic situation less dire.
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Anrew Coumo would rather deflect and blame any and everybody but himself for his abysmal handling of this virus.
 
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There were over 32,000 deaths in a matter of weeks because he sent patients back to nursing homes. The nursing homes tried to fight it saying they did not want the patients back but were no able to stop it at the time. Andrew Cuomo had field hospitals set up in central park and other places but did not use them.

I thought it was strange when they split the numbers for the state, one for New York City alone and one for the rest of the state. So now they are underreporting on cases, that solves nothing.
 
So that means the US total deaths are underreported?

Many of us already suspected that.
 
One of the best aggregations of data reported by states is found at Kaiser Family Foundation. A page I have repeated linked to here at CAF. One more time:


Scroll down the page to find the reporting of data for the long term care facilities. Among other things, one will find that the national death toll attributable to LTCFs is 44% for the 43 states that report this data.

Now look for the NY line in that table. Two things are immediately noted: NY does not report all data like most other states do and NY reports LTCF deaths as just 20% of their total deaths. When compared with states that did the same to the elderly as NY, this 20% is so low as to be absurd and indefensible. Right there one knows that is out of touch with reality. If NY’s actual percentage matched the nationwide percentage, then they had at least 14k deaths in LTCFs. If NY’s actual percentage matched that of CA, we are talking closer to 18k deaths.
 
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So that means the US total deaths are underreported?
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I suspect the nursing home deaths are underreported. I suspect total deaths are over-reported, primarily because a number of municipalities (Dallas county, LA County, probably others) attribute cause of death to COVID, even if person had stage 4 cancer, but caught on their deathbed. Counties don’t have the bandwidth to determine cause of death for every dead person…so if they had COVID when they died, then COVID it is.
 
"New York’s coronavirus death toll in nursing homes, already among the highest in the nation, could actually be a significant undercount. Unlike every other state with major outbreaks, New York only counts residents who died on nursing home property and not those who were transported to hospitals and died there.

That statistic could add thousands to the state’s official care home death toll of just over 6,600."

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New York’s True Nursing Home Death Toll Cloaked in Secrecy​

11 Aug 2020

NEW YORK (AP) — Riverdale Nursing Home in the Bronx appears, on paper, to have escaped the worst of the coronavirus pandemic, with an official state count of just four deaths in its 146-bed facility.

The truth, according to the home, is far worse: 21 dead, most transported to hospitals before they succumbed.

“It was a cascading effect,” administrator Emil Fuzayov recalled. “One after the other.”

New York’s coronavirus death toll in nursing homes, already among the highest in the nation, could actually be a significant undercount. Unlike every other state with major outbreaks, New York only counts residents who died on nursing home property and not those who were transported to hospitals and died there.

That statistic could add thousands to the state’s official care home death toll of just over 6,600. But so far the administration of Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo has refused to divulge the number, leading to speculation the state is manipulating the figures to make it appear it is doing a better than other states and to make a tragic situation less . . .

. . . Dr. Michael Wasserman, president of the California Association of Long Term Care Medicine, said it is unethical of New York to not break out the deaths of nursing home residents at hospitals. “From an epidemiological and scientific perspective, there is absolutely no reason not to count them.”

Nursing homes have become a particular sore point for the Cuomo administration, which has generally received praise for steps that flattened the curve of infections and New York’s highest-in-the-nation 32,781 overall deaths.

But a controversial March 25 order to send recovering COVID-19 patients from hospitals into nursing homes that was designed to free up hospital bed space at the height of the pandemic has drawn withering criticism from relatives and patient advocates who contend it accelerated nursing home outbreaks.

Cuomo reversed the order under pressure in early May. And his health department later released an internal report that concluded asymptomatic nursing home staffers were the real spreaders . . .
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Naturally ALL states have asymptomatic nursing home staffers. But not ALL states have New York state long-term care facility (LTCF) deaths. Something MORE went on in New York.

Of course that “more” is bringing COVID-19 actively INFECTED patients INTO these LTCFs.

The real question (that Andew does not want people even asking, is WHY that was done under his orders?!
 
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NY State Sen: I Think Nursing Home COVID Deaths Undercounted by ‘a Couple of Thousand’ ‘at a Minimum’​

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22 Aug 2020

During an interview broadcast on Friday’s “CNN Newsroom,” New York State Sen. James Skoufis (D) said that he thinks New York’s numbers underrepresent the number of coronavirus deaths in nursing homes and he believes that “at a minimum, we’re talking probably a couple of thousand additional deaths.” . . .
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Jeanne_S said:
Anrew Coumo would rather deflect and blame any and everybody but himself for his abysmal handling of this virus.
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Come on Jean. Howe are we ever to blame this on President Trump if you keep bringing up these facts?
 
Note that NY is not accused of underrepporting overall. Only categorizing differently. All covid deaths in NY are still counted as covid deaths in NY. But NY certainly recovered well.
 
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‘The Gov. Killed Nana’ Banner Mocking Andrew Cuomo Flies over New York Beaches​

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KATHERINE RODRIGUEZ

6 Sep 2020

A banner mocking Democrat New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo flew over several of New York’s most popular beaches Labor Day weekend.

The banner, towed behind a small propeller plane, read like a shoreline advertisement, except with the words, “THE GOV KILLED NANA.” . . .

. . . The banner was seen flying over several beaches along Long Island and New York City and appeared to reference Cuomo’s March executive order forcing nursing homes to accept coronavirus patients.

His executive order led many to believe that it was at least partially the cause for the spike in nursing home coronavirus deaths in New York.

One person visiting Rockaway Beach for the day told the New York Post that when the plane went by people applauded the sign and took pictures.

“The people were going crazy,” the beachgoer said. “[Cuomo] is nothing but a liar, condescending and miserable person. . . .
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And when I think about all those ads saying Rs want to throw Grandma over a cliff… projecting much?
 
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Ohhh do his mistakes are honest but Orange man bad and to blame,right?:roll_eyes:
 
So, Cuomo has to answer to God for willfully manipulating covid-19 statistics, even though it has not been shown that Cuomo personally manipulated or ordered manipulated covid-19 statistics?
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By the way @LeafbyNiggle, your narrative that Cuomo rescinded the order after just two weeks is fake news.

Here is Cuomo’s real order issued on May 10 . This is straight from the horse’s mouth:
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I don’t know where I got the idea that the revision was two weeks after the original order. You are right that it was 6.5 weeks after.
 
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