Newer Hymns you actually like

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I also really like these hymms which i know arn’t really new, but hymms in general are pretty new to me:

O God beyond all Praising (instrumental processional at our wedding and sung as opening hymm)
You have great taste. That was our wedding processional as well. 😃
Let all Mortal flesh keep silence
O Sons and daughters (Alleluia)
What wonderous Love is this
I heard the voice of Jesus say (Ralph Vaughn Williams wrote a fantasia on this theme, it is beautiful).
These are all some of my favorites as well. I love “I Heard the Voice of Jesus Say” for funerals. We had it for my husband’s grandfather’s funeral and whenever I get to speak with families of the deceased to plan the music for the liturgy and show them this hymn, they also love it. But it’s also a wonderful hymn for outside of the funeral.
 
I am not a Broadway show tune.
No, of course, not. You’re the whole show! And one of my favorites, as a matter of fact. It will be at the St. Louis Municipal Opera this summer, our big outdoor amphitheater in the park. It seats 11,000 and the 1,100 seats in the back are free for every performance (line up early to get one). I can’t wait. I hope they have the same Harold Hill they had last time, Dirk Lumbard who did it at Lincoln Center. He’s wonderful.
 
Actually, the tune for ‘Immaculate Mary’ is from the 19th century. It’s a tune from the Pyrrenees [sp?] section of France. So it might have been a tune that St. Bernadette heard.

Since I go to the TLM now, I don’t hear too many ‘modern’ hymns. But I remember once that a priest I was friends with did a solo of ‘You Are Mine’-not at Mass, but in the setting of a prayer group. I wasn’t there to hear it myself, but he had a wonderful tenor voice, and those who heard it were very moved.
I was in grade school in the 1950s, and I guess today that’s practically the 19th century.
 
Traditional though I am, there are a fair few contemporary hymns that I’m rather fond of. A couple of years ago I was at an Anglican church in Toronto for Mass, Procession, and Benediction on Corpus Christi and we sang “One bread, one body” which I quite liked. I do like “Gather Us In” as well. I’m sure there are others.

I guess I’m a bit of a bundle of contradictions. I’d love to see Mass celebrated ad orientem sung to Haugen’s Mass of Creation .😃
I like both the songs you mentioned. We sang Gather Us In on Sunday. There are frequently complaints here about it, but I rather like it’s rousing melody. It kind of sounds like a sea shanty to me, but it kind of gets you started, if you know what I mean.
 
Now I want to hear this one!

I only know the one that goes:

Immaculate Mary
Your praises we sing
You reign now in Heaven
With Jesus our King

Ave Ave Ave Maria
Ave Ave Maria
It’s the same one. Ah-ve, Ah-veh, Ah-veh ma-REEEEE-a.

I don’t know where I got those words. I remember the wrong words a lot, but I have old age as an excuse. I haven’t heard that song in such a long time, but it’s ingrained in my musical memory that way. We had to cut little holes in the back of our red felt beanies for our pony tails to come through. We used to fold the backs under, but the nuns didn’t like that. I guess a chopped hole was better???
 
Ah thanks for that. It must have been a hymn then. I was confused as I haven’t heard it for years and the fact that there are parts just for the cantor led to think that it was a psalm.

Plus it must be obvious that I am no music expert!:o

I am glad to bring an optimistic thread on liturgy. There is almost always something to like!
It does have a Psalm-like quality to it, and it’s based on The Lord is My Shepherd, a Psalm if there ever was one. We don’t use it at Mass as a Psalm, although the pastor did let us use it there for my mother’s funeral.
 
We need a discussion group for singers here. 😃
Totally agree. 👍
Check out “A Living Prayer” from Alfie Boe: alfie-boe.com/media.php
Now THAT is a great voice for the cross-over genre!!! Thank you for sharing it. A real nice Irish tenor voice. It’s from his soul and from the depths. It’s definitely not saccharine or shallow. You can tell he has a good grounding. He’s actually someone I’d listen to more than once and wouldn’t mind seeing live - AND he’s even more interesting to know that he is a Catholic. Josh Groban is too cheesy and Charlotte Church has done something to her technique which I’m not too crazy about and have been disappointed by. She “makes” her sound rather than allow it to come organically. I used to think she had a nice, sweet voice as a child.
His voice has a good ring to it. Plus, he’s a Catholic! I know you can’t compare a tenor with a soprano, but I think this is a good representation of the genre. 👍
Actually, you can. Of course, one can say that they like the tenor voice more than a soprano voice and vice versa, but in terms of ability, “seasoning”, talent, technique, you can definitely compare. I recently saw a production of “Don Giovanni” where there was no comparison between the Don Giovanni and the his Donna Elvira and Donna Anna. Both ladies were good for B or C level houses, but they weren’t A-level voices. The Don Giovanni was A-Level and you could tell the difference. Then if the soprano and tenor are equal in talent, you’ll get the famous competitions between the two - which ones can hold their high note the longest, etc.

Ok… so that we can sort of bring it back to the subject. I’d love to hear Alfie Boe sing some of these hymns that were mentioned on the thread.
 
Totally agree. 👍

Now THAT is a great voice for the cross-over genre!!! Thank you for sharing it. A real nice Irish tenor voice. It’s from his soul and from the depths. It’s definitely not saccharine or shallow. You can tell he has a good grounding. He’s actually someone I’d listen to more than once and wouldn’t mind seeing live - AND he’s even more interesting to know that he is a Catholic. Josh Groban is too cheesy and Charlotte Church has done something to her technique which I’m not too crazy about and have been disappointed by. She “makes” her sound rather than allow it to come organically. I used to think she had a nice, sweet voice as a child.

Actually, you can. Of course, one can say that they like the tenor voice more than a soprano voice and vice versa, but in terms of ability, “seasoning”, talent, technique, you can definitely compare. I recently saw a production of “Don Giovanni” where there was no comparison between the Don Giovanni and the his Donna Elvira and Donna Anna. Both ladies were good for B or C level houses, but they weren’t A-level voices. The Don Giovanni was A-Level and you could tell the difference. Then if the soprano and tenor are equal in talent, you’ll get the famous competitions between the two - which ones can hold their high note the longest, etc.

Ok… so that we can sort of bring it back to the subject. I’d love to hear Alfie Boe sing some of these hymns that were mentioned on the thread.
Alfie Boe has some good renditions of “I Vow to Thee My Country” (which is close enough to “O God Beyond All Praising” ;)) and Howard Goodall’s “The Lord is my Shepherd”. Boe’s story is interesting as he was a car mechanic who got his start when someone from the music industry overheard him singing and encouraged him to apply to music school. Reminds me of the Russell Watson story except Watson isn’t classically-trained.

The difference between Boe and Groban is that Boe has more of an opera/broadway and music school background while Groban got his start as a recording artist. I think Groban is a good compromise for the mainstream audience seeking a more “refined” but commercial sound, like Andrea Bocelli. I have a feeling he may be heading towards Broadway as he sounds suited for it. It’s good that he has a new teacher as he will have to transition from singing with a microphone to singing unamplified. As for cheesy, I think Il Divo would top the list, haha. They are clearly talented with some members having respectable careers in opera and broadway, but their image and marketing is on par with the “boy bands”.

I know what you mean about Charlotte Church. I’ve seen her manipulating her lips and chin in order to produce vibrato.

Have you heard of Gardar Thor Cortes, an Icelandic tenor?

Here he is singing “Nella Fantasia” (some of you may recognize the tune from that great Catholic film, “The Mission”).

youtube.com/watch?v=gCrd2Ab1Hak
 
Another great song is “I Received the Living God.” In our hymnal it is dated 2002!
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Another great song is “I Received the Living God.” In our hymnal it is dated 2002!
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Oooo!!! Is that the one with Proulx harmonizations? I loved that melody. Our hymnal (Red Worship III) has it copyrighted 1986 for GIA. Although, I’m not sure if the copyright is for the harmonization or for the actual tune.
 
I don’t know if it has a Proulx harmony… the only thing I have here credits the tune as Living God, anon., arranged by Steve Grundy – in 3/4 time if that helps.
 
I don’t know if it has a Proulx harmony… the only thing I have here credits the tune as Living God, anon., arranged by Steve Grundy – in 3/4 time if that helps.
I think it’s the same melody, but different arrangement. It might explain why yours says 2002. Grundy might have arranged it and copyrighted that year. But, I’m guessing the melody is 20th century, so it still falls under “newer hymn”. 🙂
 
This brings up a question for me. I’m in the process of converting and one of my wife’s biggest issues with the Catholicism is the lack of music. How much singing and of what goes on at Mass?
Actually, I think there’s more singing at Catholic masses than at most Protestant services. The main difference is Protestants usually devote a time during their services where they sing 3, 4, or more songs in a row. Whereas Catholics spread our music throughout the whole mass. There’s a lot of music!

First there’s an processional hymn. The hymn varies every Sunday and is different from parish to parish.

Every Sunday, The Kyrie can be sung, but it’s usually just spoken in most parishes:

“Lord have mercy; Christ, have mercy; Lord, have mercy.”

Personally, I like this Greek/English version by Matt Maher:
Kyrie- Matt Maher We use a similar version at mass except the English words aren’t included. I don’t think those are meant to be used when sung as the Kyrie during mass.

On most Sundays, we sing the Gloria.

Then there’s a Responsorial Psalm which changes every Sunday but is the same at every Parish.

Then the Alleluia is sung before the Gospel is read.

Then there’s the offertory hymn which is sung while the collection basket is going around, while the gifts are being brought to the altar, and while the priest is preparing the altar. This hymn varies every Sunday and is different from parish to parish.

Then there’s the Eucharistic acclamations which are sung every Sunday:

Sanctus- Latin Version
Sanctus-Contemporary English version

Memorial Acclamation

Amen

Then after the Our Father (which can be sung as well) we sing the Agnus Dei which seems to be everyone’s favorite, no matter which parish I go to. I can’t find the version that I like best. But this version by Matt Maher sounds nice, it’s a mix of Latin & English:
spiritandsong.com/musicondemand/songs/65160

Then there’s a communion hymn, or 2, depending on how long it takes for everyone to get done.

Then there’s a recessional hymn.

So yeah, there’s so much music going on at mass!
 
Which one? The one that goes “Here I am Lord. I’ve come to do your will. Make of me what pleases you.” or the one that goes “I the Lord of sea and sky. I have heard my people’s cry.”

There’s two hymns with the same title.
I love the version which has the line “Here I am, Lord, I’ve come to do your will. Make of me what pleases you, here I am, here I am, Lord”

I would appreciate if anybody could give me an MP3 file of it.

Thanks!
 
I like both the songs you mentioned. We sang Gather Us In on Sunday. There are frequently complaints here about it, but I rather like it’s rousing melody. It kind of sounds like a sea shanty to me, but it kind of gets you started, if you know what I mean.
Actually, there are serious problems with Gather Us In that are deeper than the fact that it is strangely reminiscent of Gordon Lightfoot’s “Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald”.

“Gather Us In” smacks of bad theology. Haugen, its composer, is not Catholic. One of the lines states “not in some heaven, light years away”. He completely misses the boat because it is precisely at the Mass where the veil between time and space and Heaven and earth is lifted. It is at the Mass where we get a glimpse of heaven. The Holy Sacrifice prepares us for the eternal worship of heaven. On another point, there is very little reference to God and His salviiffic acts. The song is more about what the community is doing than what God is doing.

It just smacks of poor theology and very little Catholic teaching.

As far as new compositions are concerned, Proulx outdoes (and runs circles around) anything that OCP can conjur up! 👍
 
One of my favorite contemporary compositions is John Rutter’s “For the Beauty of the Earth”.

youtube.com/watch?v=lmjO8Tb5_Zc
I like that one too. I also like the compositions of Alan Pote, but he mostly composes choral pieces. I like, and I don’t know the composer, is “We Are Surrounded”. I tried to do a web search but could not find the version I am looking for. We used to sing it a lot in our diocesan choir but I haven’t sung with the choir in awhile. It really gives the sense that there are myriads of saints and angels around us.

I also happen to like Eagels Wings…but then again I have had the honor of having the composer as one of my liturgy professors…and in sharing a nice glass of wine with him on occasion.
 
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