Next Battle: Repealing Abortion-Funding ObamaCare

[juliee]

Next Battle: Repealing Abortion-Funding ObamaCare

Washington, DC – Now that pro-life elected officials are in firm control of the House and increased their numbers in the Senate, attention turns to the next battle for the pro-life movement: repealing abortion-funding ObamaCare.

The election victories didn’t give the pro-life side enough votes in the Senate to control the legislative agenda, and President Barack Obama can still wield a veto pen, but that doesn’t mean top Republicans won’t press for repealing ObamaCare anyway.

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[Chesire11]

I agree that the Affordable Care Act needs to be amended to explicitly prohibit expanded access to abortion, but rally, aren’t there much more constructive ways to reduce the number of abortions performed each year in America than trying to repeal the Affordable Care Act? It should be achievable by means of passing a single law, without overturning the good that is achieved through this act. Do we really want to go back to allowing insurance companies to deny coverage for pre-existing conditions? Do we really want to ration access to health care based upon a person’s ability to afford coverage? How about subsidies to purchase health insurance, incentives for employers to provide health insurance to their employees? What about health insurance exchanges which allow individuals to but individual coverage at group rates?

The potential for the law to expand access to abortion is real, but indirect and (at least at the moment) blocked by Executive Order. Employer based health insurance that millions of Americans enjoy directly pay for far more abortions that the Affordable Care Act ever will.

Rather than allow ourselves to be manipulated by self-serving politicians, wouldn’t we do better to take action against employers whose insurance includes coverage for abortion (and contraception) paid for by us through private “taxes” imposed on us by our benefits departments? Why not pressure our Pro-Life politicians to fund programs that make it easier for pregnant women to keep their babies? How about protecting groups like Catholic Charities from laws requiring them to facilitate gay adoptions?

Let’s not allow ourselves to be manipulated by politicians who exploit the abortion holocaust for their own benefit. Honestly, how many abortions have our politicians ever prevented? If they were serious about preventing abortion (instead of preserving it as a useful “get out the vote” tool) then why haven’t any of them tried to Amend the Constitution? Instead, they stage public spectacles (and raise funds) over Supreme Court confirmation battles and pass laws they know will be struck down by the courts, then simply walk away from the fight.

 

[estesbob]

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Let’s not allow ourselves to be manipulated by politicians who exploit the abortion holocaust for their own benefit. Honestly, how many abortions have our politicians ever prevented? If they were serious about preventing abortion (instead of preserving it as a useful “get out the vote” tool) then why haven’t any of them tried to Amend the Constitution? Instead, they stage public spectacles (and raise funds) over Supreme Court confirmation battles and pass laws they know will be struck down by the courts, then simply walk away from the fight.

Let’s not allow ourselves to be manipulated by politicians who wholeheartedly support abortion but asked for our vote under the guise that they want to reduce the number. Not only should the taxpayers not be required to fund abortions, abortion should be outright banned. This is not merely another political issue that we can wheel and deal and compromise on. As Catholics we can neither support abortion or empower those who want to keep it legal.

 

[portarica]

Let’s not allow ourselves to be manipulated by politicians who wholeheartedly support abortion but asked for our vote under the guise that they want to reduce the number. Not only should the taxpayers not be required to fund abortions, abortion should be outright banned. This is not merely another political issue that we can wheel and deal and compromise on. As Catholics we can neither support abortion or empower those who want to keep it legal.

As catholics we must do everything possible to eliminate abortions as well as everything possible to see that in doing so we don’t advocate counter to His teachings about treating the least like they may be Jesus in the guise of the least.

Its very easy to just be against abortion, namely because we don’t usually really daily get engaged in situations where we directly impact abortions . However everyday we are making decisions and acting upon the rest of Jesus’ teachings, which coincidently are the spring from which flowed the anti abortion posture of our faith.

Peace

 

[estesbob]

As catholics we must do everything possible to eliminate abortions as well as everything possible to see that in doing so we don’t advocate counter to His teachings about treating the least like they may be Jesus in the guise of the least.

Its very easy to just be against abortion, namely because we don’t usually really daily get engaged in situations where we directly impact abortions . However everyday we are making decisions and acting upon the rest of Jesus’ teachings, which coincidently are the spring from which flowed the anti abortion posture of our faith.

Peace

If you are suggesting that we can support pro-abortion candidates because we believe they somehow are better on other social issues that is in direct conflict with what the church teaches. I fail to see how the end result of trying to end abortion would ever be in any way running counter to the teachings of Jesus.

 

[Chesire11]

Let’s not allow ourselves to be manipulated by politicians who wholeheartedly support abortion but asked for our vote under the guise that they want to reduce the number. Not only should the taxpayers not be required to fund abortions, abortion should be outright banned. This is not merely another political issue that we can wheel and deal and compromise on. As Catholics we can neither support abortion or empower those who want to keep it legal.

Let us also not allow ourselves to be manipulated by politicians who wholeheartedly support profoundly ant-Vatholic agenda, but ask for our vote under the guise of their opposition to abortion - an opposition curiously ineffective at anything but raising campaign funds.

We need to oppose abortion and defend the dignity of man as Catholics not as lackeys of any secular political party.

 

[portarica]

If you are suggesting that we can support pro-abortion candidates because we believe they somehow are better on other social issues that is in direct conflict with what the church teaches. I fail to see how the end result of trying to end abortion would ever be in any way running counter to the teachings of Jesus.

I didn’t sat that trying to end abortion is counter to what Jesus taught, what I said is that the whole of what Jesus taught is the foundation for what became the anti-abortion policy of the church.

It was Jesus’ concept about the value inherent in every life that , is not only the core of what we believe about abortion, but should also be at the core of everything we do.

Just as we shouldn’t support the policies and agenda of the politicians we voted for when they stray from the whole of Jesus’ message, we shouldn’t withhold our support from the Jesus centric agendas of those who we didn’t vote for because of their abortion friendly politics.

We shouldn’t support the abortion supporting sinner when the politics go against what Jesus taught and we shouldn’t support the pro-life politician when his or her politics are contrary to what Jesus taught.

Or do we believe that being anti -abortion gives someone a free pass on the rest of their policies?

Peace

 

[rwoehmke]

So we throw out the extension of health care to millions, just to prevent potential that abortions could be subsidized? Better to amend the bill by legislation that would accomplish that purpose without screwing over our children and neighbors who have been deprived of coverage in the past. Affordable health care like food, shelter, and a living wage are long supported rights of human persons.

 

[estesbob]

So we throw out the extension of health care to millions, just to prevent potential that abortions could be subsidized? Better to amend the bill by legislation that would accomplish that purpose without screwing over our children and neighbors who have been deprived of coverage in the past. Affordable health care like food, shelter, and a living wage are long supported rights of human persons.

The health care bill has far more problems than just the fact it funds abortion. The fact that the Democratic Party refused to allow this bill to become law without supporting abortion speaks volumes of their priorities. Interesting that you feel this bill should be amended without screwing over our children when those who put it in the law wanted to make sure paid for killing children.

 

[estesbob]

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Or do we believe that being anti -abortion gives someone a free pass on the rest of their policies?

Peace

Nobody said that. The church does not teach we have to support somebody merely because they are pro-life-just that we cannot support somebody that is pro-abortion(even if they choose to call themselves “pro-choice” and/or claim they are personally opposed to killing children but to support the right of others to kill children)

 

[estesbob]

Let us also not allow ourselves to be manipulated by politicians who wholeheartedly support profoundly ant-Vatholic agenda, but ask for our vote under the guise of their opposition to abortion - an opposition curiously ineffective at anything but raising campaign funds.

We need to oppose abortion and defend the dignity of man as Catholics not as lackeys of any secular political party.

Since I personally don’t find the policies of the Republican Party to be anti-catholic nor can find any place where the church even implied this I don’t see it is a problem. I am nobodies lackey.

 

[elts1956]

I didn’t sat that trying to end abortion is counter to what Jesus taught, what I said is that the whole of what Jesus taught is the foundation for what became the anti-abortion policy of the church.

It was Jesus’ concept about the value inherent in every life that , is not only the core of what we believe about abortion, but should also be at the core of everything we do.

Just as we shouldn’t support the policies and agenda of the politicians we voted for when they stray from the whole of Jesus’ message, we shouldn’t withhold our support from the Jesus centric agendas of those who we didn’t vote for because of their abortion friendly politics.

We shouldn’t support the abortion supporting sinner when the politics go against what Jesus taught and we shouldn’t support the pro-life politician when his or her politics are contrary to what Jesus taught.

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Or do we believe that being anti -abortion gives someone a free pass on the rest of their policies?

Peace

I find that folks who are anti abortion are among the most aware of their responsibilities to not only fight abortion, but poverty and any other Prudential issues you can think of. Think hierarchies of evil. Abortion is at the apex. How a nation treats its most vulnerable gives the world a good indication of how this nation defends the legitimate rights of all. How does the rest of the world look at us. No longer for moral leadership

 

[portarica]

So we throw out the extension of health care to millions, just to prevent potential that abortions could be subsidized? Better to amend the bill by legislation that would accomplish that purpose without screwing over our children and neighbors who have been deprived of coverage in the past. Affordable health care like food, shelter, and a living wage are long supported rights of human persons.

You are so wrong, the baby must be thrown out with the bath water, otherwise the country gets better and we don’t want that to happen. Politics is much more important than patriotism, especially to the right.

Peace

 

[Captain_America]

So we throw out the extension of health care to millions, just to prevent potential that abortions could be subsidized? Better to amend the bill by legislation that would accomplish that purpose without screwing over our children and neighbors who have been deprived of coverage in the past. Affordable health care like food, shelter, and a living wage are long supported rights of human persons.

Good quote. Most Americans want this to happen. Let’s kill the abortion cancer part of it, but make the rest of the thing work.