Nicaean Filioque?

[JackQ]

I didn’t know where to stick this question, but decided to put it here since the Filioque is a point of dispute with our Orthodox brethren.

On another place in Catholic Answers the following is attributed to the Second Council of Nicaea:

“We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and giver of life, proceeding from the Father through the Son” (*Profession of Faith *[A.D. 787]).

I have been unable to find this in any of the documents associated with Nicaea II. Can anyone here provide me with enlightenment?

I’d like to emphasize that I am Catholic and believe the Filioque to state correct doctrine, regardless of whether it was pronounced at Nicaea II.

 

[Chris_S_1]

I didn’t know where to stick this question, but decided to put it here since the Filioque is a point of dispute with our Orthodox brethren.

On another place in Catholic Answers the following is attributed to the Second Council of Nicaea:

“We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and giver of life, proceeding from the Father through the Son” (*Profession of Faith *[A.D. 787]).

I have been unable to find this in any of the documents associated with Nicaea II. Can anyone here provide me with enlightenment?

I’d like to emphasize that I am Catholic and believe the Filioque to state correct doctrine, regardless of whether it was pronounced at Nicaea II.

The history behind the Filioque is very long and spans multiple centuries. The very first Nicene Creed of 325 does not even contain the clause “We believe in the Holy Spirit”, so when people are talking about the Filioque they are referring to the clause in the Niceno–Constantinopolitan Creed of 381. If you want the short answer, this creed did not contain the filioque. It originated in Spain much later in 6th century, probably as response to some heretical Arian claims. It slowly grew throughout the west, but not the east. There’s a ton of history surrounding the Filioque in the centuries afterwards, but that’s basically the story of its origination.

 

[Nine_Two]

Also note that in Greek the texts reads as an origin point for the Holy Spirit, even the modern Popes have agreed that this is heretical. Orthodox fully agree that the Holy Spirit was sent through the son. Of course even that is a secondary issue, the primary issue being the authority of the Pope to alter it.