No Creed today?

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After the Priest finished the homily, he went straight to the prayers of the faithful and missed out the creed; was the creed supposed to be omitted today (Solemnity of Mary Mother of God)?

If it wasn’t, I expect that the Priest purely forgot and I would put it down to his age; everything else in the Mass was said as normal.

Does the leaving out of the creed invalidate any part of the Mass?

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Our priest frequently leaves out the creed if his homily “went over” (sigh). I believe that this does not invalidate the Mass but it is illicit; meaning that the particular wrong action of leaving out the creed doesn’t make the entire Mass wrong. (However, there are certain actions that are both illicit AND invalid–mainly centered on illicit consecrations).
 
Tantum ergo:
Our priest frequently leaves out the creed if his homily “went over” (sigh). I believe that this does not invalidate the Mass but it is illicit; meaning that the particular wrong action of leaving out the creed doesn’t make the entire Mass wrong. (However, there are certain actions that are both illicit AND invalid–mainly centered on illicit consecrations).
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Our creed was in Latin today!
 
Oh sure, rub it in! 😃

Well, had my Magnificat with me, so I could read the creed in English AND in Latin, anyway. Since our parish doesn’t have missals I really do appreciate my Magnificat. I have to work on the inward groans I have when I can READ what the real words of the Mass are but have to HEAR the priest (he is a nice man but. . .) adding on words (light and life of your presence: the gifts, the joy, and the love of your people, your church; etc. etc), subtracting words (in the creed God never comes for us men and our salvation, just our salvation) and substituting words (for the good of all GOD’s church, and during the consecration it is always “Jesus took the bread”, never “He took the bread”, and the kicker in the consecration of the blood of “covenant OF LOVE”.

Sigh, sigh, sigh. If this is meant to make the Mass more personal and less “rote”, why are his added words ALWAYS ROTE ==the SAME== as WELL???

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Tantum ergo:
Oh sure, rub it in! 😃

Well, had my Magnificat with me, so I could read the creed in English AND in Latin, anyway. Since our parish doesn’t have missals I really do appreciate my Magnificat. I have to work on the inward groans I have when I can READ what the real words of the Mass are but have to HEAR the priest (he is a nice man but. . .) adding on words (light and life of your presence: the gifts, the joy, and the love of your people, your church; etc. etc), subtracting words (in the creed God never comes for us men and our salvation, just our salvation) and substituting words (for the good of all GOD’s church, and during the consecration it is always “Jesus took the bread”, never “He took the bread”, and the kicker in the consecration of the blood of “covenant OF LOVE”.

Sigh, sigh, sigh. If this is meant to make the Mass more personal and less “rote”, why are his added words ALWAYS ROTE ==the SAME== as WELL???

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Oh geez, I’m sorry. Well you’re welcome at our Parish anytime!

We had the Our Father in Latin too (I didn’t know that one and had to follow along using the Missal inserts) AND that my girls sang “The Song of the Faithful” with the Adult Choir singing the “O Come All Ye Faithful” part and the little ones doing the Latin. It was beautiful and I actually teared up!

Come on down to MI anytime!
 
Thanks–MI is beautiful; used to visit a college buddy in Saline and watch the Wolverines. . .

I can do the Pater Noster and the Ave Maria in Latin but I need the book to do the creeds.
 
Thank you Tantum ergo and netmil(name removed by moderator) for your prompt replies 🙂
 
netmil(name removed by moderator):
Our creed was in Latin today!
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Congrats! Sounds like Ss. Cyril & Methodius is slowly creeping onwardly Latin. We have lots of it and I love it.

I don’t recall when the Creed is required to be in the Mass or not. When there’s more time, we’ll have to look it up, unless someone has quick access.
 
We said the Creed this morning and say it every Sunday morning (and Saturday Vigil).
 
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Pious:
After the Priest finished the homily, he went straight to the prayers of the faithful and missed out the creed; was the creed supposed to be omitted today (Solemnity of Mary Mother of God)?

If it wasn’t, I expect that the Priest purely forgot and I would put it down to his age; everything else in the Mass was said as normal.

Does the leaving out of the creed invalidate any part of the Mass?

Thank you
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I just got back from Mass and we definitely recited the Creed. Did you have a baptism at your Mass? Then you would not recite the Creed because the whole congregation renews their baptismal vows in place of the Creed. Otherwise, I believe it should have been done.
 
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IanS:
I just got back from Mass and we definitely recited the Creed. Did you have a baptism at your Mass? Then you would not recite the Creed because the whole congregation renews their baptismal vows in place of the Creed. Otherwise, I believe it should have been done.
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No, the homily did go on a bit though; I decided to read the creed to myself when the collection plate was going around, probably did not do any difference to the Mass.
 
The recitation of the Creed is required by the rubics for all Sunday Masses and Solemnities. Today’s Mass was a Sunday Mass supplanted by a Solemnitiy. It would be required in either case.

Skipping the Creed when it is required is an abuse of the Liturgy, but it is only an illicit practice. The Mass remains valid.

Skipping the Creed is a common abuse when Father needs to trim time from the Mass for some reason. “My homily went on too long” isn’t usually an acceptable reason.

My church is in a slightly different boat. Our parish offers a 7:45 on Sunday mornings from April through October. Our priest is also pastor in the next town over. The Sunday morning schedule is 7:45, 9:00(next town over), and 10:30. It’s not uncommon for the Creed to get skipped at 7:45 at least once a month. Those of us who know this is an abuse look the other way, because our priest is simply stretched too thin. Sometimes it gets skipped at the 10:30 because our priest is so wiped from his weekend Mass schedule that he’s about ready to keel over after homily.

In these cases, if the faithful want abuse-free Masses, we best start sending young men to the seminary. :banghead:
 
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MusicMan:
In these cases, if the faithful want abuse-free Masses, we best start sending young men to the seminary. :banghead:
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We best stop using any kind of Birth control to have more young men TO send.
I’m not kidding. When mothers had multiple children, it was a badge of honor to have a religious in the family. Now, Hmmmmm.
 
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Lux_et_veritas:
Congrats! Sounds like Ss. Cyril & Methodius is slowly creeping onwardly Latin. We have lots of it and I love it.
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My girls and I spent about three hours with a couple other ladies, stapling the Latin inserts to the back of the Missals. The girls did the leg work of collecting and replacing.

I sure HOPE they use the Latin after that!
 
netmil(name removed by moderator):
We best stop using any kind of Birth control to have more young men TO send.
I’m not kidding. When mothers had multiple children, it was a badge of honor to have a religious in the family. Now, Hmmmmm.
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A number of years ago I attended a Confirmation Mass said in the Diocese of Winona (MN) by its Bishop, Bernard Harrington. The Bishop’s sermon was the standard Confirmation fare, but he made a major push for vocations, much more forcefully than I’ve ever heard a Bishop do.

He told the story of a young man in the Diocese who felt the call to the priesthood. Went through discernment with his pastor, and the pastor recommended him. Went through some discernment with the vocations director, and the Diocese strongly believed that the man was indeed called to the priesthood. His mother forbade him, because he was an only child and she wanted grandchildren. :banghead:

I hate to say it, but I think we’ll have more success by lifting the requirement of priestly celibacy than we will with convincing Catholics to stop using any form of birth control and go back to bigger families. Then again, I could be wrong. It has happened before, and I might just own up to it if I am wrong again. 😃
 
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MusicMan:
I hate to say it, but I think we’ll have more success by lifting the requirement of priestly celibacy than we will with convincing Catholics to stop using any form of birth control and go back to bigger families. Then again, I could be wrong. It has happened before, and I might just own up to it if I am wrong again. 😃
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Give it time, my friend. We have eight seminarians. In our parish, four children is the AVERAGE. I really think that people are beginning to see the blessings of a big family.
 
We had the Creed… in English however.

But we did have a concelebrant… so only 2 EMHC were “needed” (church holds a big crowd - 225 packs the place)

Our Pastor is superb, and sadly too many of the old-time parishioners don’t recognize his personal holiness and his desire to help them increase their own holiness.

Today marks the beginning of his 7th month as pastor. Please include him in your prayers that he may never tire of his work.

as for the Creed… won’t be long till we say it right again. After praying jointly with others, using "mus"es , laudamus, glorificamus, adoramus etc. we make the change to Credo, the singular.

This ***personal ***profession of faith is essential. So look for it to happen this year “I believe in God…”
 
Tantum ergo:
Thanks–MI is beautiful; used to visit a college buddy in Saline and watch the Wolverines. . .

I can do the Pater Noster and the Ave Maria in Latin but I need the book to do the creeds.
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Come on down (and over).
You can coach me through what I don’t know!
 
I hate to say it said:
and go back to bigger families. Then again, I could be wrong. It has happened before, and I might just own up to it if I am wrong again. 😃

No Catholic should be using birth control as the Church does not allow it.
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I hate to say it, but I think we’ll have more success by lifting the requirement of priestly celibacy than we will with convincing Catholics to stop using any form of birth control and go back to bigger families. Then again, I could be wrong. It has happened before, and I might just own up to it if I am wrong again. 😃
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Celibacy in priesthood was an importantaspect in the success of the Church. Imagine if the bishops and the Pope has their own family? Would you think that the Pope can still do his ministry in the Church like today?

Birth Control is a definitely not the cup of tea of the church and God Himself.
 
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