No-Fault Divorce, Standing for Justice

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Under this light, would your church then allow those divorcees to remarry?
 
Ah. I see.

So would it be fair to summarize the development as a possible institutional rule in making the Catholic annulment process potentially a bit smoother?
 
It does not seem to me that the author of the HPR article is proposing something brand new, but rather encouraging diocesan bishops to take more concern for troubled marriages than simply referring them to the tribunal for a decision as to nullity. In the final paragraph she writes:

“We can strengthen marriage by keeping families away from the no-fault divorce courts as often as possible and by working toward outcomes that are in accord with canon law and divine law — which is the system under which Catholics exchange marriage promises in the first place.”
 
In the comments following the article. one of the commenters on the article writes this:

"God hates divorce. Jesus said that to divorce and remarry is adultery. Adulterers have no place in heaven St. Paul writes to his converts in Ephesus.

But we know better.

What absolutely blows my mind when Catholics divorce/petition for nullity/remarry is how they can ignore the bitter sobbing of their children in the next room who just want Mom and Dad back together.

What “healing” occurs to make parents oblivious to their children’s suffering? I’ve observed that it is their happiness in finding a new romance. They love being in love. Like overaged adolescents, they defend their right to be happy. Now.""
 
That’s painting with a wide brush there.
Not all who divorce have children, and those who do have adult or impressionable ones.
I am not advocating divorce, but instead looking at the bigger picture.
At the same time, what lesson are children taught when their parents put up with abusive relationships?
And fwiw, almost everyone loves being in love 🙂
 
In the past few years, rules for Diocese around the world have been to model what the US has been doing for decades. I’ve heard there were some countries where there were so few resources or trained staff that cases took 7 or more years!!

The process in the US is smooth. Every US Diocese has their tribunal info on their website.
 
The thing is, by the time people are separating and filing for divorce, the situation has become so bad that it is irreconcilable. They should be worried about the bitter sobbing of their children when they are ignoring one another’s needs and looking at other men and women on the internet.
 
Cruciferi said:
“If civil divorce remains the only possible way of ensuring certain legal rights, the care of the children, or the protection of inheritance, [then] it can be tolerated and does not constitute a moral offense.”
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Depend of each legislation, but in many cases a divorce punish very hard the woman if she had stay at home to raise her children. She will lost all her husband support and all the financial support the society made available for widows. She will also loose her residency (who is the propriety of her husband, because he is the one who paid it) and all his inheritance. She will died in poverty. It is much more injust some civil laws allowed one to divorce against the wish of another for no-fault.

Legal separation without divorce is often more just. Which is the prefere solution by Catholics couple.
 
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I agree that in the case of a STHM, the divorce ruling are often unfair, however, she doesn’t have to “die in poverty”. That’s a bit extreme. Many judges provide alimony to homemakers to help them get on their feet. When my aunt was divorced, she was allowed to live in the family home with the children until they were all 21. She had nine years to establish a career for herself, which she did. Even if all they get is a sum of money for half and childsupport, she’s further ahead than a single mother who was never married, and we still expect them to pull themselves up by the bootstraps.
 
Allegra said:
I agree that in the case of a STHM, the divorce ruling are often unfair, however, she doesn’t have to “die in poverty
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It think Anicette is from different country then USA and different laws:)
 
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There is too much no fault divorce acceptance in society and it is not good for children etc imo.
A lot of these couples issues maybe more about different communication style, poor compatibility and perhaps fighting about things like money or other “stress related” things.
I think these things are hard but can be worked out.

Of course, it is much different situation when a husband or wife is unfaithful in marriage.
 
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I think it will only get worse as more and more people grow up without an example of a healthy couple relationship in their lives.
 
It’s an ugly mess. The current Church is neglecting its teachings about divorce and separation, laid out in canon law.

DIVORCE IS A SIN, UNLESS DONE UNDER NARROW AND SPECIFIC CONDITIONS.

And the grounds for receiving a decree of nullity are grossly wide.

But none of it can be examined, because its confidential information.
 
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Of course, it is much different situation when a husband or wife is unfaithful in marriage.
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I assume you mean sexual infidelity?

That is not the only way a spouse can be unfaithful. And adultery is not a valid reason for civil divorce.
 
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And adultery is not a valid reason for civil divorce.
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I think Jesus through the Gospel disagree on this.
Maybe not a civil divorce, that is a very new pagan thing in Christian history but a physical separation yes.
Or as some moralits had articulated in history a valid reason for the betrayed spouse to refuse the “debt” until he is able to forgive.
 
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