No instuments at Church?

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I know a guy who is part of the “church of Christ” he is part of the sect that does not allow any musical instruments in their Services. He says they dont allow them because Jesus condemned the Jewish Temple Worship, and since they played instruments in the Temple than that means that Jesus condemned instruments at church services. He aslo said it was not untill the 8th century A. D did the Catholic Church even start allowing instruments in our Mass

“I have found the paradox, that if you love until it hurts, there can be no more hurt, only more love.”
Mother Teresa
 
By that logic, Jesus also outlawed the worship of God, since that was also going on at the Temple.

Ask this guy where it says that Jesus condemned the worship taking place in the Temple. Jesus condemned those things going on in the Temple area which were not worship.

That being said, musical instruments are a relatively late addition to Christian worship. Traditionally, the Eastern Churches still do not use instruments, preferring to use only the human voice in divine worship. And the Latin Church, generally speaking, did not allow any instruments besides the organ until the 20th century.
 
Many Eastern Catholic Churches (who are in communion with Rome) have no instruments either. A cappella music is an age-old musical tradition of the entire Catholic Church, East or West.

Gregorian chant is meant to be a cappella, though it sometimes has organ, and the liturgical music of the Roman Catholic Church is supposed to modeled on it (or even better – used at Mass).

Take note that a cappella means “in the manner of a church/chapel,” which means a Catholic Church or Catholic Chapel. 😉

EDIT: GV is a faster typist than I am!
 
I once had a friend who went to a church like that, but he explained that it was because they focused on the new testament only. He jokingly (well at least I hope) said that I would go to hell for playing the organ for church.

Being a teen, I argued then “why did they allow electricity, microphones, and fluorescent lighting since they weren’t in the NT either?”

He shut up after that.🙂

That was the first time I really got the chance to stand up for being Catholic. It was my first time in another church and I remember my mother telling me that when I went in, not to genuflect because there wasn’t a reason. I didn’t really get that until later.
 
By that logic, Jesus also outlawed the worship of God, since that was also going on at the Temple.

Ask this guy where it says that Jesus condemned the worship taking place in the Temple. Jesus condemned those things going on in the Temple area which were not worship.

That being said, musical instruments are a relatively late addition to Christian worship. Traditionally, the Eastern Churches still do not use instruments, preferring to use only the human voice in divine worship. And the Latin Church, generally speaking, did not allow any instruments besides the organ until the 20th century.
I think you are mistaken. Mozart (who was Catholic) wrote several Masses that were scored for orchestral instruments as well as the human voice. These Masses were performed at Mass in Churches in Austria, France, Bohemia, and Italy. In addition, When Silent Night was first performed in Austria on a Christmas Eve Midnight Mass, its composer, Franz Gruber accompanied the singing on a guitar because the church organ was broken.
 
Many Eastern Catholic Churches (who are in communion with Rome) have no instruments either. A cappella music is an age-old musical tradition of the entire Catholic Church, East or West.

Gregorian chant is meant to be a cappella, though it sometimes has organ, and the liturgical music of the Roman Catholic Church is supposed to modeled on it (or even better – used at Mass).

Take note that a cappella means “in the manner of a church/chapel,” which means a Catholic Church or Catholic Chapel. 😉

EDIT: GV is a faster typist than I am!
Recently I have realised that the best thing for the Catholic Mass is the music/singing that you have mentioned. Often people say that we have to bring young people in, Mass must change with the times, have rock music etc.
Well I love rock music, progressive, ambient, classical and religious. I feel that the Mass should be traditional and even many young people would feel the same way. After all they can listen all the contemporary music they want in youth groups, TV, Radio, ipods etc. I don’t know about others here, but I prefer tradiotional Gregorian, and organ music in Mass.
But no instruments? I feel that would be going a bit far.
 
Is it acceptable to bring a Kindle eReader to Mass to read Daily Mass readings?

I ask because I’m looking to read the Daily Mass readings on the kindle and have the bible + catechism. But I’m unsure if this would be offensive to others because they may assume I’m reading something else.

Thank you in advance for any response I may get.

Glory to God forever.
 
Psalm 150:4
Praise him with tambourine and dance; praise him with strings and pipe!
 
I know a guy who is part of the “church of Christ” he is part of the sect that does not allow any musical instruments in their Services. He says they dont allow them because Jesus condemned the Jewish Temple Worship, and since they played instruments in the Temple than that means that Jesus condemned instruments at church services. He aslo said it was not untill the 8th century A. D did the Catholic Church even start allowing instruments in our Mass

“I have found the paradox, that if you love until it hurts, there can be no more hurt, only more love.”
Mother Teresa
Well the tradition in the Byzantine Rite is not to have instruments. We only use polyphonic chants. Because instruments are man made, we wish only to honor God by using instruments that are made by God, and that is the human voice. But its not a doctrine of any sort that says we cannot, that is just how the tradition developed in the East.

I think its nice and practical. No matter what instrument you use, there is no guarantee you’d have someone who can play that instrument. But everyone can sing. Good or badly, everyone can sing.
 
But everyone can sing. Good or badly, everyone can sing.
You’ve heard the saying, “Bis orat qui bene cantat,” who sings well prays twice. I’ve heard “singers” where it was more like “if he sings, well … you’d better pray twice.” 😛
 
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