No meat Fridays during Lent?

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What the title says. If so, why? My parents never told me why growing up, so I’m hoping someone will tell me
 
Gift_from_God said:
What the title says. If so, why? My parents never told me why growing up, so I’m hoping someone will tell me
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I am not sure what it is in Canada (it may be that one is permitted to substitute acts of charity or piety on these days …except Ash Weds and Good Friday…but you would have to verify this with the Canadian Conf. of Bishops)

cccb.ca/site/eng/commissions-committees-and-aboriginal-council/sectoral-commissions/liturgy-and-the-sacraments-english-sector/documents/2327-living-lent
 
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What the title says. If so, why? My parents never told me why growing up, so I’m hoping someone will tell me
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As BC has said, this may not hold in Canada; however, AIUI:

We do penance during the 40 days of Lent in association with the 40 days that our LORD fasted in the wilderness of Judaea. We abstain from meat on Friday b/c HE gave up the flesh of HIS own body when HE died, and Friday was the day of HIS death.

God Bless and ICXC NIKA
 
Gift_from_God said:
What the title says. If so, why? My parents never told me why growing up, so I’m hoping someone will tell me
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In Canada, other than Good Friday, we are not bound to abstain from meat on Fridays of Lent. We are free to substitute another penance instead.
 
Wait, the no mean on Fridays in Lent is an American thing? Does that likewise mean the substitution of penance on other Fridays not in Lent is also an American thing?

For example, if Canadians can eat meat on Fridays in Lent, does that mean that some countries still require the abstention from meat on all fridays?

I wish someone would have told me this when I lived in Michigan. I would have went for a good steak dinner or ribs in Windsor on Fridays in Lent. 😃

Just kidding.

It probably would have been a hamburger at McDonalds because the steak dinner would have been too expensive.
 
wjp984 said:
Wait, the no mean on Fridays in Lent is an American thing? Does that likewise mean the substitution of penance on other Fridays not in Lent is also an American thing?

For example, if Canadians can eat meat on Fridays in Lent, does that mean that some countries still require the abstention from meat on all fridays?

I wish someone would have told me this when I lived in Michigan. I would have went for a good steak dinner or ribs in Windsor on Fridays in Lent. 😃

Just kidding.

It probably would have been a hamburger at McDonalds because the steak dinner would have been too expensive.
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I can’t speak for America, but here in the Middle East ALL Wednesdays of the year are supposed to be meatless (instead of Fridays, as Friday is the “religious” day of the weekend); IN ADDITION the Fridays of Lent are meatless here.

We also have the strange situation where all masses offered on Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays are Sunday masses.
 
wjp984 said:
Wait, the no mean on Fridays in Lent is an American thing? Does that likewise mean the substitution of penance on other Fridays not in Lent is also an American thing?

For example, if Canadians can eat meat on Fridays in Lent, does that mean that some countries still require the abstention from meat on all fridays?

I wish someone would have told me this when I lived in Michigan. I would have went for a good steak dinner or ribs in Windsor on Fridays in Lent. 😃

Just kidding.

It probably would have been a hamburger at McDonalds because the steak dinner would have been too expensive.
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Canon Law calls for abstinence from meat or “from some other food as determined by the Episcopal Conference” on all Fridays but, per canon 1253 “*The conference of bishops can determine more precisely the observance of fast and abstinence as well as substitute other forms of penance, especially works of charity and exercises of piety, in whole or in part, for abstinence and fast.”

*Canada’s decree allowed substitution on all Fridays, including those of Lent; the US didn’t impose anything for Fridays outside Lent.

You’ll find few Canadian Catholics who know that they are still supposed to abstain from meat or substitute good works of charity or piety for abstinence. I don’t recall that ever being mentioned in church when the decree was promulgated, all we were told is that we could now eat meat on Friday. In fact, one Lent when I included the directives from the ORDO in the bulletin on the Sunday before Ash Wednesday, the sister who was Administrator at the time (we were between Pastors) was not happy with me. Said that didn’t apply anymore – regardless of the CCCB’s decree.
 
wjp984 said:
Wait, the no mean on Fridays in Lent is an American thing? Does that likewise mean the substitution of penance on other Fridays not in Lent is also an American thing?

For example, if Canadians can eat meat on Fridays in Lent, does that mean that some countries still require the abstention from meat on all fridays?

I wish someone would have told me this when I lived in Michigan. I would have went for a good steak dinner or ribs in Windsor on Fridays in Lent. 😃
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The country of Mexico was also exempt from the Friday meatless penance; the argument being that the poor of that country should avail themselves of protein whenever they could get and afford it.

The exemption also worked both ways: Mexicans in US territory, or Americans in MX were likewise exempt from the abstinence.
Just kidding.
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It probably would have been a hamburger at McDonalds because the steak dinner would have been too expensive.
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Along the border, back before long customs lines, passport requirements, or violence warnings, it was common for citizens of Texan border towns to cross the bridge and eat fajitas on Friday:):)🙂

ICXC NIKA
 
Gift_from_God said:
I think all of Canada has
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What happened to Sidney Crosby? All I know is that I don’t like him for two reasons. One, outside of the two So Cal hockey teams, the Redwings are my favorite team because I spent a couple years in Michigan. And two and most important: well I don’t really feel like remembering and repeating that reason but I’m sure you Canadians all love him.
 
GEddie said:
Even with the old exchange rate???🙂
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When I was there the currency fluctuated like crazy from the CA dollar being worth more to the US dollar being worth as much as getting $1.25 Canadian to the US buck.

I remember watching the currency a lot because when I liked the rate I would go to Canada and get a bunch of money at the casino to get a good rate to last me when the currency tanked again. I successufly had enough at the $1.20 rate or so to last until I left Michigan. But at the current rates, I certainly wouldn’t plan on going to Canada any time soon even if I still were close by.

Even so, the $1.20 was not enough to make a steak dinner cheap.

Now back in 2000, I had the opportunity to go to Whistler for a week. Now that was an awesome cheap vacation when I got about $1.6 Canadian for the U.S. dollar.
 
Gift_from_God said:
What the title says. If so, why? My parents never told me why growing up, so I’m hoping someone will tell me
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Because they said so, that’s why. 😃

Abstaining from meat on every Friday of the year is the universal norm of the Church and has been since the earliest times, for the reasons already mentioned such as commemoration of Christ’s sacrifice. The same canon that prescribes abstention from meat allows the bishop’s conference in every country to adopt it to suit their people. In most Western countries this means that Ash Wednesday and Fridays in Lent are still days of abstinence and the other Fridays of the year either have no obligation or another penance may be substituted for abstinence, but you have to check with your own bishop’s conference or local bishop.

Obedience to one’s bishop does not end at the border of his territory. If I travel to Mexico on vacation or temporarily for work or another reason, I still have to follow the rules that my bishop has given me.
 
white_sheep said:
Obedience to one’s bishop does not end at the border of his territory. If I travel to Mexico on vacation or temporarily for work or another reason, I still have to follow the rules that my bishop has given me.
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I’m not sure that is true.
Can. 13 §2. Travelers are not bound:

1/ by the particular laws of their own territory as long as they are absent from it unless either the transgression of those laws causes harm in their own territory or the laws are personal;

2/ by the laws of the territory in which they are present, with the exception of those laws which provide for public order, which determine the formalities of acts, or which regard immovable goods located in the territory.

§3. Transients are bound by both universal and particular laws which are in force in the place where they are present.

So, if you’re travelling you’re bound by universal laws: which means you can substitute abstaining for other forms of penance since that is universal law.

If you’re working for a period of time you’re bound by the laws of the territory in which you’re working.
 
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